NASA/NAI answer questions about 2012 and Planet X, page 1

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Topic started on 17-6-2009 @ 03:43 AM by reugen

I cant say i know exactly how all the planets move around the sun or in relation to the galaxy over several thousands of years but wasnt the main theme in the 2012 Mayan prediction that all the planets in our solar system would line up with the sun and point directly at the center of our galaxy while moving below the galactic plane. Something that happens only every 5125 years according to the Mayan people and their ancient longcount calendar (13th Bak'tun, end of great cycle) ?

NASA / NAI has answered a whole battery of questions.
David Morrison,
NAI Senior Scientist
June 1, 2009
Direct link

There is no planet alignment in 2012 or any other time in the next several decades. As to the Earth being in the center of the Milky Way, I don’t know what this phrase means. If you are referring to the Milky Way Galaxy, we are rather far toward the edge of this spiral galaxy, some 30,000 light years from the center.

What many websites do discuss is the alignment of the Earth and Sun with the center of the Milky Way in the constellation of Sagittarius. This happens every December, with no bad consequences, and there is no reason to expect 2012 to be different from any other year.

G'day.

(edited b'ak'tun years)

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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:05 AM by Luchare

G'day from Melbourne!

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks heaps for putting that link up - I am not a believer in the whole 2012 'End of the World' thing, but I tell you what I have seen some disturbing evidence from the amount of volcanoes and earthquakes in the world at the moment. Earth has to be drifting/going through 'something', but I am not sure what. If it wasn't for the out of the ordinary 4.5 tremor Melb had in March I would not have found this site, so I do not think I came here by accident. Something has to be going on, so I am not sure if I believe in what NASA has to say.

reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:09 AM by heineken

what NASA fails to answer IMO is how ancient civillizatin got all that astonomy and astrology knowledge

reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 05:11 AM by Karlhungis

Alright, it looks like all this fuss was for nothing. If NASA says we will be OK, then we have nothing to worry about. It isn't like NASA would withhold information from the public if they thought it might cause a panic.

www.newsweek.com...
www.space.com...

Thanks for clearing things up NASA.

reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:13 AM by reugen

reply to post by Karlhungis

Well, i've used a few interactive starmaps that also can show animations of our solar system at certain time and date and i can not see any alignment of our solar system planets in 2012 at all. Not even if you include only mercury, venus, earth and mars.

The closest i get to a lineup of mercury, venus and mars in a straight line with the sun is in June 2011 but then earth is 90 degress off that line. Try it yourself: www.astroviewer.com...

reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:15 AM by reugen

Some background of Nibiru and its history. I think this question (and answer) is pretty good. I just found out about this NASA site today and i think its great that they take the time and effort.

If nibiru is a hoax, how did these people got to know about it? where did the idea of nibiru or planet x come from? is it just a product of spontaneous imagination or there are some documents and real evidence that supports it?

The Nibiru hoax has two main sources. First, a man named Zecharia Sitchin, who writes fiction about the ancient Mesopotamian civilization of Sumer, has claimed in several books that he has found and translated Sumerian documents that identify the planet Nibiru, orbiting the Sun every 3600 years. Sitchin has sold a lot of books about these Sumerian fables, which include stories of a civilization of aliens on Nibiru that had aided the Sumerians. Nancy Lieder, a self-declared psychic who claims she is in communication with aliens, says that the inhabitants of a fictional planet around the star Zeta Reticuli warned her that the Earth was in danger from Nibiru. This catastrophe was predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened it was changed to December 2012. These Nibiru fables were greatly amplified when people started to say that Nibiru would approach Earth at the time of the turn-over of the Mayan long-count at the winter solstice of 2012. Then came myths about the Earth’s magnetic field flipping at the same time, and all of this has been used in the publicity campaign for the Hollywood film “2012” being released this autumn. The film publicity includes a faux scientific website for the Institute for Human Continuity, which is entirely fictitious. (Using this sort of fake website is called “Viral Marketing” by analogy with computer viruses.) You can get more information on all these weird ideas on Wikipedia. Start with “Nibiru collision” for an overview, then look up “Nibiru mythology” about the Babylonian god (there is no Sumerian reference to Nibiru), then “Nibiru (Sitchin)”, and finally for a real laugh use google to check out “Nancy Lieder”. The term “planet X” was borrowed from astronomers who have used it for the past century to apply to possible additional planets not yet discovered. It is nonsense to equate this term with something specific like Nibiru.

David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist
June 4, 2009
Direct link

Oh well.

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reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:42 AM by Karlhungis

reply to post by reugen

Thanks. I am not one who subscribes to the celestial aspects of 2012. I just don't trust NASA. They have shown that they wouldn't tell us if they did think our demise was eminent, so for them to come out and "debunk" 2012 just makes me laugh.

reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 06:46 AM by heineken

i too dont trust NASA..still though i think they are right on Nibiru , Magnetic Field shifting, 2012 stuff

reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 01:57 PM by MtnStrSd

I can't believe that NASA actually believes this is a legit excuse. They didn't say anything about us crossing the galactic plane, or even entering into the galactic center point. There was never an idea that we would be IN the center of the galaxy. We are obviously circling around the Milky Way on the outside, BUT when we roll around on the GIANT BAND OF SPACE DUST things are gonna go down I think.

reply posted on 17-6-2009 @ 02:12 PM by sickofitall2012

"As to the Earth being in the center of the Milky Way, I don’t know what this phrase means." How freakin condescending!!!! That is not what the alignment is you jacka** . There is a black hole in the center of our galaxy, why didn't he say that either.