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Netanyahu says will accept demilitarized Palestinian state

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posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 02:13 PM
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Netanyahu says will accept demilitarized Palestinian state


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RAMAT GAN, Israel (Reuters) – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu accepted on Sunday the U.S.-backed goal of a Palestinian state but balked at meeting President Barack Obama's demand to stop Jewish settlement expansion.

Netanyahu's reversal on statehood appeared to be a bid to end the worst rift in U.S.-Israeli relations in a decade. But further friction appeared likely over his refusal to budge on settlements.

Netanyahu said he would support the establishment of a Palestinian state.
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posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 02:13 PM
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[sarcasm]Oh well, I guess that evil, genocidal regime in Israel aint so bad after all.[/sarcasm]

Okay, Palestinians, your turn. How about you disarm Hamas? Recognize Israel's right to exist, or give up the Right of Return non-sense that Israel will NEVER agree too.

So now that Israel has agreed to a Palestinian State under the conservative Lukid Party, how long for the Palestinians to set more pre-conditions before agreeing to sit down and negotiate?

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posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 02:42 PM
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What an amazing reversal of position from the Israeli leader. Great testament to the power of the new Obama administration, and how effective "arm twisting" can be when coming from their #1 ally that pumps billions in aid and support to them every year.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 02:49 PM
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An unarmed state is hardly a state at all and nyet-an-yahoo knows it. I am sure he also knows that it would go over like a lead balloon and it did.

No it was not a serious proposal and he knows it... it was a ploy to deflect any U.S. backed plans.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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I don't know if the "arm twisting" has been effective. Israel isn't going to stop with the settlements, which is what the administration really wants.
 

In any event, the ball is in the Palestinians court now. If having a separate homeland is important to them, they can give a counter proposal and then negotiate.

That won't happen though because, I feel that deep down, the leaders of the Palestinians don't want to [can't perhaps?] live peacefully side-by-side with Israelis.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 03:25 PM
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Okay, in 48 hrs the media is going to present the good old Iran issue how he can POSSIBLY nuke Russia with his missiles and that they are sharing missile information to N. Korea. Its only sad that he hasn't google'd that info which you can find on several million web sites.


Oh as for a non armed Palestine, well it seems he must have been addressing some pensioners.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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You have just got to love these kind of marketing glossy 'stories'...



Two states simply isn't going to happen.

You would think the Arabs would be happy with such a monumental achievement as getting Nyet to agree to their own state!

Nah... The 'Palestinian' second banana negotiator immediately jumped on the rest of their list (of unachievable
) conditions.

It's a NON story folks.

Kind of like the rest of Husseins 'achievements'.





posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Back and forth, back and forth and will you look at that? MORE back and forth.

More of the same, always the same. When will people learn the Israel will NEVER budge on settlements or a Palestinian state.

They just don't want it, and it won't happen. Demiliterized? Sure that will help Palestinians alot.

What a crock of bs.

~Keeper



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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What reversal? Netanyahu made a brilliant play by appearing to agree on a separate Palestinian state. He just wants it his way, dis-armed. What a joke. Its like the British telling the colonists, "O.K. you can have your own state when you dis-arm..." The palestinians will never dis-arm, nor should they, and Netanyahu knows this.

[edit on 14-6-2009 by Oatmeal]



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 03:40 PM
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grover got it right...stars for you.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Apparently some people fail to see a bit of sarcasm.

In reality, Netanyahu is like any politician trying his best to please both sides, but usually it changes nothing.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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So Netanyahu accepts international guarantees that a Palestinian state would have no military. And he accepts that Palestinians recognize Israel as a Jewish state. Then he is willing to accept to begin the talkings.

It sounds fair to me.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Sarcasm? I may be blind but I don't see any sarcasm... merely stated the same as you, Netanyahu is a politician, he is trying to make both sides happy. But he cannot pull it off because what he says he wants is impossible...



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 04:49 PM
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You know you have to ask, will this allow the two to live in peace as equals?

One must accept the existence of a not only the state of Israel but now a Jewish state. Israel having the most nukes on the planet while it's "equal" palestine counterpart must be completely disarmed.

Equality?

Keep your hands where I can see them, always up in the air forever and we can live in peace while you allow yourself to be subdued to my religious and military dominance!

Sureeeeeeeee... equality


Israel was ready to go, just as soon as the Palestinians declare their recognition of Israel as “a Jewish state.”

“Where does that leave us?” asked Jawad Abu Ghosh, an Arab who's been an Israeli citizen all his 50 years. “Such a designation has a very racist characteristic to it.”

“It's hard enough getting equal rights in Israel as it's defined today,” said Mr. Abu Ghosh, the deputy mayor of this largely Muslim town of 6,000. “Can you imagine how hard it will be if Israel is recognized as a Jewish state?”

“These people have a lot of nerve,” Mr. Abu Ghosh said. “They take control over our land and insist on their culture being the only one recognized.”

www.theglobeandmail.com...

“Our family came to this area 500 years ago,” said Issa Abu Ghosh, the director of education in the community. As the names suggest, many, if not most, of the Muslim residents of this town are members of one large family whose patriarch established control of these hills in the 16th century.

“We teach Jewish history in the schools,” Issa Abu Ghosh said. “We accept them as the majority in the country. But it shouldn't be exclusive.”

Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas has refused. “It is not my job to give a description of the state,” he said. “Name yourself the Hebrew Socialist Republic – it is none of my business.”


This entire proposal is a slap in the face and nothing more.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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I agree.... but actually Israel has by all accounts only have around a hundred nukes... we have thousands.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 06:00 PM
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Israel having the most nukes in the planet ? Come on, their stock is unknown, they might have 50 to 100 nukes when the USA or Russia have thousands.

More than 50 years ago, the UN supported a partition of Palestine as follow : one Jewish state, one Arab state, one international zone. When Israel asks for recognition of its existence, it has always meant as a Jewish state as the UN resolution favored. You might have not realised it until now because the Jewish part is usually 'forgotten' is Western MSM.

But I agree with you, if you are willing to open talks, you don't ask this as a pre-requisite, it is way too much.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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To me this is nothing but pure bollocks, we knew this would happen. Israel had to say no at first, and then come back with yeah sure but on these "conditions" the most interesting one



RAMAT GAN, Israel, June 14, 2009 (Reuters)
www.newsdaily.com...

Netanyahu, who has refused to back a state for Palestinians since he took office in March, said he would now endorse the establishment of a such a state -- but only if Israel received in advance international guarantees the new nation would have no army and Palestinians recognized Israel as a Jewish state.



the key point is a demilitarized Palestinian state, which plays into the hands of Israel completely.

they both have there separate "states" Israel gets "attacked" by the Palestinian state..Israel Invades said state, and since they have no army takes it over, thus taking even more then they have now and in a "legal" way

whoever thought that the Israel/USA ties were fading, or being put on the back burner needs to open there eyes just a little bit more


it's all part of the agenda folks, they are getting it on...



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posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 06:11 PM
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Yadda Yadda Blah Blah Blah.

Yeah like this will ever happen. Hammas giving up their weapons YEAAH!
So now I know Israel isn't serious. Why not ask for the moon.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 06:33 PM
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I listened to the whole speech and he came off as a bigot and a xenophobe without a doubt,same rhetoric that is backed by nothing.Typical of Israel and what i expected from this disgusting state,he did make some good points though...hamas(dont like them) should give some leeway when it comes to negotiations...inbetween the times they are not being bombed,subjugated and the children of gaza being mutilated in their thousands by the always admirable IDF of course.



posted on Jun, 14 2009 @ 06:41 PM
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There has never ever been a nation of Palestine. The so called Palestinians are from Egypt, Lebanon and Jordan. Ask yourself why those countries treat them like dirt, Israel treats them better.

Israel has given them Gaza and the west for peace to only get rockets in return. The day Israel was totally out the terrorist started their attacks.

It is the people who are now called Palestinians who are bad apples and its is fact when you consider that Egypt and Jordan will not put up with them. The only reason the Arab states press Israel to give them a state is to weaken Israel.

Its the Palestinians who did not want to sign the peace deal that was offered witch would have given them way more than they ever deserve.

The Arabs know they cant defeat Israel and thats why they came up with the Palestinian struggle in the first place. Yassar Arafat invented the term.

The only way for Israel to be overran will be for them to give up and sign the Anti-Christ (Obamas) peace deal. This will only happen after the Gog-Magog war witch is coming soon.

Ask yourself why the Jews are so hated and that why every two bit dictator will go after them first? Because thats what the devil wants them to do.

Israel has been a nation for thousands of years. It has every right to expand to its rightful borders.

The U.N. gave Israel back to the Jews because it was theirs in the first place stolen from them by the Arabs. Proof is in the many religious sites that are Jewish all over Israel dating back thousands of years, Way older than the Dome of the Rock or any Arab Muslim site in Israel.

The late King of Jordan who attacked Israel said on his deathbed that the worst thing he ever did in his life was attack Israel and that he wished God would forgive him.

It is the stated goal of the Palestinians to kill all the Jews by driving them into the sea so wake up and stop supporting the devils plans. Your life depends on it.




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