I am a victim of a hate crime regarding HOMELAND SECURITY, page 3
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reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 02:12 PM by jprophet420
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by jprophet420
Thats utter poppycock. The sticker does not say "9-11 was an inside job and you're in on it". The sticker does not even come close to saying or implying that.


Hmmm. My first response was deemed off topic by the moderators, and since their word is law, allow me to rewind and rephrase it.

In case you hadn't noticed, when you circulate these "inside job" conspiracies you ARE necessarily accusing the gov't and gov't employees of "being in on it". All you need to do is readthese boards to see people blatantly accusing the gov't (and everyone from Silverstein to Bush to even some guy driving a taxi by the Pentagon) of "being in out it". Remember, Homeland Security was specifically set up in response to the 9/11 attack, so out of all the gov't departments, they'd certainly be the most sensitive about it of all. Showing them an "inside job" slogan is asking for trouble the same way as going to a Jewish festival and telling them the holocaust was faked.

That said, I already posted I agreed that the destruction of the laptop was unprofessional, not to mention, illegal. The right to be free doesn't give anyone the right to not be offended by other people's beliefs. Such extreme intolerance to outside ideas is what almost certainly incited the hijackers to pull of the 9/11 stunt to begin with.



I'm sorry but you're wrong. Everyone in enron wasnt "in" on it. All Christians weren't "in' on Waco. The entire government wasn't "in" on Pearl Harbor, not even the president. The entire government wasn't "in" on the Manhattan project.

Only a person with a biased, preconceived notion would think that implies the entire government. There are a lot of those people on BOTH SIDES of the fence around here.


reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 02:19 PM by jprophet420
Originally posted by Ben Niceknowinya
Why?
Originally posted by jprophet420
OMG the first responders are in on it! the best case in point is that i bet anything the DHS agent who did it didn't even work for DHS pre 911.



I would bet anything that the DHS agent who did it didn't even work for DHS pre 911, too. Yeah...

Why?

Beacause DHS didn't exist pre 911.!

It wasn't even formed until November 2002.

You should have known this if you're trying to tear apart the subject, sir.

That (is) of course, unless you were talking about DHS - Department of Human Services...

www.dhs.gov...
en.wikipedia.org...


As for your hate crime theory? Good luck trying to convince any judge in any courtroom in America that this was a hate crime.

One word that comes to mind here. Elaboration.

Pardon Me.


Excuse me. What I meant to say was he/she wasn't a trained security monkey for the airport prior to 911, or working in any other similar position either for a private contractor or the government performing a similar duty. I didn't want to phrase it like that.

As far as it not being a hate crime, don't point out my fallacy and then try to use one against me. Your logic is that if a judge doesn't convict you its not a hate crime (at least thats the implication). I defined hate crime and it fit the definition and you posted nothing that changes that.

[edit on 23-6-2009 by jprophet420]


reply posted on 23-6-2009 @ 03:43 PM by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by jprophet420
I'm sorry but you're wrong. Everyone in enron wasnt "in" on it. All Christians weren't "in' on Waco. The entire government wasn't "in" on Pearl Harbor, not even the president. The entire government wasn't "in" on the Manhattan project.

Only a person with a biased, preconceived notion would think that implies the entire government. There are a lot of those people on BOTH SIDES of the fence around here.



I am going by the Department of Homeland Security's mission statement, which says...

"This Department of Homeland Security’s overriding and urgent mission is to lead the unified national effort to secure the country and preserve our freedoms. While the Department was created to secure our country against those who seek to disrupt the American way of life, our charter also includes preparation for and response to all hazards and disasters."

Since this obviously covers investigating, preventing and guarding against 9/11-type attacks, claiming that the gov't was involved in the 9/11 attacks necessarily means that the DHS had to be involved as well. It doesn't matter if you believe it's the entire DHS, merely a few, or just the guys who take out the trash. You're still making accusations of blatant criminal intent against the DHS of which DHS personnel will naturally perceive as outrageous slander, particularly when they obviously do NOT subscribe to your claims of conspiracy in the first place.

As I said before, I do not condome their vandalism, but I do understand why would have done it.


reply posted on 28-6-2009 @ 10:55 AM by jprophet420
reply to post by GoodOlDave



Dogmatic acceptance of the OS is just as ridiculous as the dogma of any given "truther". the official story is STILL (8 years later) at the conspiracy theory level. Everyone who doesn't see this is blinded by beliefs.
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