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Is ATS a Pentagon think tank?

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posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 07:57 PM
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I have seen quite a bit of speculation, on ATS, that ATS is a black book U.S. Government dis-information service. I'm sure the site owners and the moderators have gone down this road many times before.

Deny, Deny, Deny.

Where does the Penatagon get it's ideas for ruling the world anyways?

Well I found this article which talks about the Pentagon's idea factory.

The topics are remarkably similar to the topics discussed on ATS.

Even if the Pentagon isn't indirectly involved with ATS. I'm sure that it is on their radar screens.



Exclusive: Inside The Pentagon's Idea Factory

A tiny office in the Pentagon employs a handful of military officers, teamed up with outside contractors, to study the future.

The jargony official description of the office -- often called the Pentagon's internal think tank -- refers to comparing U.S. "military capabilities" to those of other countries and identifying "emerging or future threats or opportunities for the United States."

The range of subjects includes energy: Future Asian-Pacific Hydrocarbon Demand (1996-2015) [December 1997]; weapons: Role Of High Power Microwave Weapons In Future Intercontinental Conventional War [July 2007]; and Islam: Occultation In Perpertuum: Shi'ite Eschatology And The Iranian Nuclear Crisis [May 2007].

tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...


Think the Pentagon isn't involved in alternative theories and off the wall scenarios?

Think again.

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[edit on 10/6/2009 by Mirthful Me]




posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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SandF

This wouldnt suprise me. We know that the govt. went to some of the leading sci-fi writers years ago and said " make some interesting things up".

If you dont have ideas, you cant make anything can you?



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by felonius

If you dont have ideas, you cant make anything can you?


I do wonder if they have just run out of ideas.

Just look at the amount of capital that was available to purchase stocks before 9/11. Stocks were way overvalued compared to earnings. Even now there is way too much money that is running around chasing it's tail. Too few, have too much money and they have too few ideas.

Too many people were competing for the same smaller piece of the pie. Someone has the money and they are just waiting to unleash it upon the market. But the same problems still exist. Too few ideas and not enough will to change.

America is undergoing a suppression of innovation and free thought as the established elite attempt to maintain their position in the economic order, by continuing down the same old trodden path.

What does it take to change the entire military industrial complex?

[edit on 10-6-2009 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 08:40 PM
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they do not have to own or run ATS

they just need to know the web address and possibly make an account, then they can see everything and or/start threads with a topic they would like discussed

i would be honored if they used us in such a way

it would show we are on the right track



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by In nothing we trust
"Is ATS a Pentagon think tank?"


Umm, no, it is not.
The question is no doubt relevant, but accordingly, there is no validity for its basis.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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It's naive to think that 3 letter types aren't monitering alternative sites;
looking for information that may advance their agenda.

I doubt that ATS is an official info resource but with the kind of money and manpower, 3ltr types control; I wouldn't be a bit surprised if this post and all the previous ones, wasn't being funneled into some data base as I type.





Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away



from "For what it's worth" Buffalo Springfield



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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i hope this site is a pentagon dis-informtion tool. i would love the oh-so-delicious irony.

i think i would probably laugh for the rest of my life if it was the case.



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 10:31 PM
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When I firt found ATS- looking for a forum where measured, intellectual discussion of topics that were not in the "mainstream" were the order of the day, I trolled and read for a few weeks, then joined.

I wondered- and still do, quite often- if people from a variety of agecies check the site out- either for ideas, or to get a bead on what "they" consider to be a counter-culture. In reality, the topics we discuss seem to fit in with a lot of the topics discussed at CIA, etc.: telepathy, unusual aircraft, aerial viewing, biowarfare, etc.

It would be instersting, ironic, and pretty funny if some of the incredible insights here are manifested in "their" operational planning and work.

Interesting idea, OP- thanks for verbalizing what a lot of us (I think) have pondered at some point.


And as an afterthought- it would be horrifically naive to think "they" aren't monitering sites like this- that whole, "know thine enemy" approach of institutional pranoia!

EDIT:

Of course, if this is a site linked to any of the agencies, I would love a paycheck......


[edit on 10-6-2009 by CultureD]

[edit on 11-6-2009 by CultureD]



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa

It's naive to think that 3 letter types aren't monitering alternative sites; looking for information that may advance their agenda.


I agree. It's completely naive to think that they don't monitor the main alternative sites. After all, the people who frequent these sites are often not under the direct influence of the mass media brain washing machine.

There's a good chance they may be stealing the best ideas that get thrown out there and improving on them with the intent on maintaining power and advancing their agenda.


[edit on 10-6-2009 by In nothing we trust]



posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 11:29 PM
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No doubt this site gets checked out regularly.

*waves to the feds*

Nothing I say could convince anyone that ATS isn't run out of some basement office by the CIA, but I'm telling you it isn't. If it was, why would they use staff from around the world to moderate it? It doesn't take a super slueth to see what many different countries the moderators come from.

So, unless staff is the underground government of the emerging New World Order...

hmmmm




posted on Jun, 10 2009 @ 11:47 PM
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Originally posted by masqua

Nothing I say could convince anyone that ATS isn't run out of some basement office by the CIA ...


How could we ever really know?



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 12:03 AM
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...one of my brothers works at the pentagon... he was the last born... mom was worn out by then, so us older kids took care of him mostly and we dropped him on his head more than a few times - not intentionally, of course, we were just clumsy kids... point is, if a pentagon employee's job (or any federalie for that matter) is to visit alternative views websites in the hopes of snagging useable info, well, jeez, have i told you about my baby brother?... lmao...



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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I think the feds would be more closely monitoring 'Free Energy' or 'Alternative Energy' sites than conspiracy sites.

Because freedom is their greatest enemy.



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 02:05 AM
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Well if they are looking for new ideas we could come up with a few doozies I imagine.

Tater tot fueled nanobots.

Instant water.

Intercontinental ballistic beagles.

I want the patent on that last one.



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by badgerprints
Intercontinental ballistic beagles.



...ahahahaaa!... what a visual - too funny!...



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 04:04 AM
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reply to post by In nothing we trust
 


Of course it is, arent you getting your paycheck like me??


On a serious note though, I think the site is watched just like every other forum board on the net.

I wouldnt go as far to say it is a think tank but even if it was you can always quit if you feel the need too, nobody forced anyone to join ATS. As far as I am aware anyways





posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 04:27 AM
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I'm not sure, but this seems better suited for skunk works.

I think ATS encourages certain discussions that have nothing to do with denying ignorance. Just go read the huge thread "Barack Obama Is Qualified To Be President... Isn't He? (by Jim Marrs)". It's annoying to watch sometimes, but it's obvious why they do it. Of course they are interested in many of the subjects they discuss here, but a website like this has to attract buzz and particular groups of people to stay afloat and to gain a profit.

I don't think ATS is a Pentagon think tank, but it does worry me that ATS has ATS News now. ATS is looking a lot more like the media these days, and one of the main appeals this site offers is getting away from all forms of media, including mainstream and alternative. I always felt like the site was focused more on what isn't supposedly "newsworthy" then what is. That's changed. Sensationalized stuff gets more attention now, probably to draw in more members.





[edit on 11-6-2009 by rapinbatsisaltherage]



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 07:36 AM
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Heck- one of my parents was an intel specialist at the Pentagon when I was a wee child and running around N. Virginia in ignorant bliss, while they were in Bulgaria or something!- I was "to the manor born" I guess, although in a twisted way
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There's more going on "inside" than we can imagine- and I would be very surprised if the agencies didn't troll around here for ideas, as they do on Hack-a Day and sites like it, where people develop homegrown intel techniques.

Kind of fun to school the schoolers...

It's a fun game, really, isn't it?



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 07:38 AM
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On that subject- the news outlet- I agree with you completely. I don't believe there's a CIA "News Agency" or an "NSA Outreach Commitee" or the like. I hope to keep this site as it is- a little under the radar for the sheep- and a little noticible to the thinkers. Beyond that, I'm not comfortable expressing myself as freely as I might otherwise do.

[edit on 11-6-2009 by CultureD]



posted on Jun, 11 2009 @ 07:41 AM
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Wait- is someone else getting a paycheck? Government pension? Am I missing out, man?

Once flu kills a bunch of people and the Gov's are at a loss, we can all swoop in and remake things in our image....


Sorry- sort of day dreamed off for a moment....



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