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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Im not sure this was North Korea's Bomb personally.
it was several times larger than their first bomb, and since 2006 they have shut down their plants, destroyed some infrastructure etc etc.
How did they improve on their bomb abilities in 3 years when they were also dismantling their systems?
They only RECENTLY reactivated it.
Couple this with Ahmadinejads comments today
TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Monday ruled out nuclear negotiations with other nations, saying, "Iran's nuclear issue is over, in our opinion."
I think the Iranians just tested a nuclear device, with the help of North Korea.
The north setting off short range missiles is just a red herring.
Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by gallifreyan medic
Please, in the future, spare me the lecture. You're making huge assumptions about my background, world experience, and cultural influences. Trying to talk down to me really doesn't further your argument.
I think you exhibit more than a smattering of "western ego". I wonder if you even know what you mean.
It's real simple for me, and yes, I am pragmatic about it: In a world sense, any nation has the right to defend itself, and develop the toys that others have. Except whom? Except those that make public blatant statements about world domination and executing those that don't worship the same diety, live the same way.
Certainly, Gallifreyan, there have been all manner of inconsistencies and horrors perpetrated by the U.S., Israel, and allied nations. I don't recall any of them, however pledging to execute or otherwise destroy others based solely on their difference of religion.
So, yes, I'm apparently an infidel, and one with Western ego -- an ego that says I'm officially against anyone who wants to backshoot me or mine -- in actually or metaphorically.
The real and true shame of all of it is the Iranian people, who are held hostage to the violent aspirations of their leadership. They are the real victims.
What does Iran [the government] want? What do they say they want? Are they the same? Are those goals consistent with the peoples' wish, and does that make a difference?