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(CNN) -- President Barack Obama spoke of the tensions Thursday between the United States and Muslims saying " the sweeping change brought by modernity and globalization led many Muslims to view the West as hostile to the traditions of Islam.
"Violent extremists have exploited these tensions in a small but potent minority of Muslims. The attacks of September 11th, 2001 and the continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view Islam..
Originally posted by SonicInfinity
when Obama said "world order."
To speak to the "Muslim world", is to speak not to a fact, but rather to an aspiration, and that is the aspiration that Islam shall be a global state religion as its founders intended. To address this aspiration is to breathe life into it . For an American president to validate such an aspiration is madness. America is not at war with Islam, unless, that is, Islam were to take a political form that threatens America's global interests. These interests include friendly relationships with nation-states that have a Muslim majority, such as Egypt, Turkey and Jordan. To address "the Muslim world" is to conjure up a prospective enemy, for global political Islam only can exist as the enemy of the nation-states with which America has allied.
Obama, the White House press office told reporters last week, will address among other issues the Arab-Israeli issue. What does it imply to raise this issue in a speech to the "Muslim world"? Nearly 700 million of the world's 1.4 billion Muslims live in Indonesia, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, countries which share no linguistic or cultural affinities with the Arabs, and have only religion in common.
Originally posted by NatureBoy
Obama is trying to deal with the very complex problems caused by the former president bush,
words like 'crusade' echo around the muslim world still
-i can assure you of this, From a middle eastern perspective it looks like christendom is waging an unholy war against islam using economic, political and militaristic might to try and crush them
- obama needs to heal this rift before the world tears itself apart, thus fixing the order of the world so it's more stable and provides a positive platform for human development.
It's clear that many people on the plant, i call them rednecks, haven't developed mentally past the bronze age -
they consider conquest to be the only answer, infact its not an answer at all, the only real answer is harmony. Simple thermodynamics wills tell you that much, a system will grow more complex unless it is balanced - look at the rest of the planet, everything has settled down into a complex web of interdependent links. THIS is the order of the planet, we just happen to have something nature never had - an intelligent designer! yes we can model our system into something which works for us....
Obama is a smart man, he knows we can't go on winning the wars for oil forever, not least with china and her massively expanding potential or the great bear which seems to be coming out of hybernation once again. The west has to move quickly into a stable and sustainable footing which means ending the unwinable wars, hopefully after the 'terrorism' he'll tackle the nonsence which is 'drug prohibition'
As President Obama prepared to leave Washington to fly to the Middle East, he conducted several television and radio interviews at the White House to frame the goals for a five-day trip, including the highly-anticipated speech Thursday at Cairo University in Egypt.
In an interview with Laura Haim on Canal Plus, a French television station, Mr. Obama noted that the United States also could be considered as "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world."
Is B. Hussein insane? Less knowledgeable than a schoolboy? Claiming America on behalf of the caliphate? Or is he just giving us a foretaste of the shameful pandering in store for us when he grovels his way through the Islamic world, apologizing for the lousy country he is embarrassed to rule?
utter nonsense- so many wrongs, for a start
* There is a greater number of christians living in the middle east than Muslims in America- does this significant minority not count as a minority in your eyes? (quite aside from the fact there are Jewish, secular, etc minorities)
* There is no singular Muslim view- each country has it's own religions, political and cultural differences, with many of them hating a fellow mainly Islamic nation more than the west!
* Clearly there is no "holy" war- you could argue a secular war forcing secular notions on them, but then Obama is a "Christian" allegedly as well
Originally posted by NatureBoy
reply to post by theblunttruth
if america is not willing to face its mistakes and problems then why should the islamic nations?
Originally posted by jjkenobi
How is it possible to not be at war with a religion whose followers are preaching convert or die?
Go ahead and quote the Quran I'm talking about what is actually practiced by believers that I have seen.
Originally posted by tjeffersonsghost
Originally posted by jjkenobi
How is it possible to not be at war with a religion whose followers are preaching convert or die?
Go ahead and quote the Quran I'm talking about what is actually practiced by believers that I have seen.
and you dont think that we arent over there trying to convert them from Muslims to Christians?