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do you realize that it is mostly just paranoid delusions that has no place in an intelligent environment?
What do you guys think of all these people revising events and history in order to make a profit off of the gullible?
Originally posted by suzque66
I was thinking, why not allow open concept lectures and discussion in PS. Students are taught history and current events but they are not actually taught how to analyse how something in history could have been avoided or how to be active in what is occuring now. Explains why many sit by idle as bad things happen. I assume they feel hopeless and useless to do anything about it to create their own history changing for the better.
[edit on 26-5-2009 by suzque66]
Originally posted by Illuminatus I
It's just another strange formality that people do. If you open your mind, you could see that other similar rituals can be considered creepy: Christmas, birthdays, HALLOWEEN[/n] etc...
They all have their weird elements. Candles on Cakes? Putting a tree in your house? Wtf?
Who puts candles on cakes? Who puts trees in their houses?
WHO DRESSES THEIR CHILDREN UP AS MONSTERS AND TAKES THEM AROUND TO GET CANDY FROM STRANGERS?!?!
Crazy people, that's who!
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
I am sure that any conspiracy nut worth their salt would not want their kids to be taught Conspiracy Theories by the same hidden government that they believe runs the rest of the world. Actually, I am suprised that any one of them would even send their kids to school. I guess it wont matter after the flu hits in the fall and them and all their children die, because they are afraid it is just a way to put the chip in them or poison them.
Originally posted by Illuminatus I
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
I am sure that any conspiracy nut worth their salt would not want their kids to be taught Conspiracy Theories by the same hidden government that they believe runs the rest of the world. Actually, I am suprised that any one of them would even send their kids to school. I guess it wont matter after the flu hits in the fall and them and all their children die, because they are afraid it is just a way to put the chip in them or poison them.
That's a good point. How do these people even know that kids aren't just being taught the government's version of the vast conspiracy?
Originally posted by EctoCooler HiC
Originally posted by Illuminatus I
It's just another strange formality that people do. If you open your mind, you could see that other similar rituals can be considered creepy: Christmas, birthdays, HALLOWEEN[/n] etc...
They all have their weird elements. Candles on Cakes? Putting a tree in your house? Wtf?
Who puts candles on cakes? Who puts trees in their houses?
WHO DRESSES THEIR CHILDREN UP AS MONSTERS AND TAKES THEM AROUND TO GET CANDY FROM STRANGERS?!?!
Crazy people, that's who!
It's laughable that this would be considered the same thing. Lighting candles on a cake isn't too creepy, it's perhaps weirdly traditional. A tree in a building is a bit strange. Getting dressed up in KKK like cloths and having so many people who claim to be "christian" taking part in a ritual that is so close to Satanistic, and taking into consideration how many people that are in positions of power, harboring this in unison is pretty disturbing.
There is nothing objectively different between burning a cake, a cross, a scarecrow, or any other inanimate object. If they start burning people, give me a call. Otherwise, your "satanistic" interpretation has nothing to do with reality.
I hate to tell you...but if someone said they snuck some footage of me going house to house getting candy, i wouldn't flip the hell out.
Yeah, but you might if you were on your way somewhere more important and some jerk got in your face and started making it sound like you were a Satan worshipper or an occultist.
Alex Jones has the skills to take anything you saw and skew it for his agenda. If you were to say, "I'm just taking my kids to get candy... we're having fun!"
He'd reply, "Yeah! Having fun worshipping satan and exposing your children to high fructose corn syrup and the whim of strangers' pedophillia"
Originally posted by prevenge
Originally posted by Illuminatus I
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
I am sure that any conspiracy nut worth their salt would not want their kids to be taught Conspiracy Theories by the same hidden government that they believe runs the rest of the world. Actually, I am suprised that any one of them would even send their kids to school. I guess it wont matter after the flu hits in the fall and them and all their children die, because they are afraid it is just a way to put the chip in them or poison them.
That's a good point. How do these people even know that kids aren't just being taught the government's version of the vast conspiracy?
how do you know all of that DID happen?
you don't
could be some matrix-program flim flam.
no way you can prove it all happened... you just saw pictures in a book about it.
flim flam i say.. flim flam.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Illuminatus I
Exactly! And how do they know that the government isnt just making up new conspiracies to cover other conspiracies. Kind of the old, I know that you know that I know that you know scenario.
Pretty soon the kids wouldnt even believe in the laws of physics because they werent there to view the experiments that proved them. It would just become a never ending cycle of simulated retardation to the point that the whole country would fail, because no one would believe in anything.
Then once you dont believe in anything, your mind starts making up wild answers to explain the world around you and you end up like a lot of ATS members. You know what I mean, those that think they are special or everything is a conspiracy because they never learned critical thinking skills in school.
It could be a disaster. De-evolution at its best. Maybe this whole conspiracy way of thinking was introduced by our enemies to destroy us.
Originally posted by EctoCooler HiC
reply to post by Illuminatus I
That's not exactly what happened. He asked a question about a simple quote. Gergen referred to him "not walking around naked like they do" in an article.
He then boasts how he snuck the footage out and then Gergen got very offended. Even if normal things went on there and it was just for "security purposes" that he reacted in such a way, he stated that "i'm sorry! no one sets policy in there! you took an oath!!" He then asked him if he took part in the rituals and was told very angrily, that it's not any of his damn business. The funny thing is..the only one that was confrontational, was Gergen himself.
Children who trick or treat are not famous or presidential advisors...you better expect to be interviewed perhaps, crazy old me. Doesn't mean being asked a bunch of questions is "confrontational" and instead of just acting like it was a crazy concept, or acting annoyed, all Gergen did was confirm that what he takes part in should just be shut up about asap before he blows up. Of all the, yes i'll admit...times that Alex Jones has overreacted about things, during this particular "aggressive confrontation" it's probably the calmest i've ever seen any interviewer, commercial or inde, just simply asking some questions.
nor did he say anything out of line to provoke someone other than asking simple questions about what he wanted to know.
It could have been handled and denied very easily. Even in response to leaked footage, because after all...it's not like Gergen himself was caught on tape...and Gergen hadn't seen the footage..which means his reactions to the words "the ritual on tape" certainly means that he acknowledges they take place and aren't just light fun, and nor did he know if he himself was caught on tape doing anything since he hadn't seen it, which is why he didn't try to deny anything, because if the footage did include him he'd be exposed for a liar even worse. So blowing up, was his reaction to being put into such a position as he was, even though there was no hostility in the questioning that took place.
Originally posted by EctoCooler HiC
He denied the quote. A birthday party is not the same thing as officials getting dressed in Klan-esque robes and taking part in rituals. Anybody who wants to know what is going on when such strange activity is our business is not provocative. If I want to know what is going on when officials meet up to take part in such things, it isn't out of line to confront the topic. Am I a Christian? I wouldn't say I'm overly religious or a bible thumper.
I do think believing every little thing is stupid, I also think being in denial and thinking everything is leading to a nicey-nice reality with our government is also stupid. Regardless if you think what they do at Bohemian Grove is normal and fine and dandy and none of the people's business or not.
Originally posted by justsomeboreddude
What is wrong with dressing in a clanesque hat and performing some rituals. The Pope does it all the time. Does that make him evil?
Originally posted by titorite
reply to post by Illuminatus I
Personally I think your trolling for arguments. With such biased comments likeand
do you realize that it is mostly just paranoid delusions that has no place in an intelligent environment?
What do you guys think of all these people revising events and history in order to make a profit off of the gullible?
It is obvious your not wanting do discuss the relevence of teaching conspriacy in school but rather you display a desire to flame.
If it is sincerly your beliefe that the majority of ATS posters are paranoid and delusional then why bother hanging out on a board like this unless its your sole desire to get your jollies at the expense of others?
Originally posted by LeahRayAnn
Almost sounds like a good idea for a school! Lol but if it was a real school they would be teaching their students why NOT to believe these theories. Government doesn't want our children to learn anything out of the norm, they already candy coat everything that is taught.
I think they change a lot of what is taught and make history seem a lot different than it really was. They feed us basic facts and try to avoid in depth discussion. That is why teachers and professors get so frustrated when a student proves them wrong or asks questions on material they were not planning on covering. They find ways to avoid our questions.