Is Obama Placing Politics Above Americans?, page 1
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Topic started on 18-5-2009 @ 09:06 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
Is Obama actively trying to hurt the citizens of Las Vegas and Nevada simply because the governor of Nevada is Republican?

President Obama refuses to meet with Governor Gibbons about tourism comments

The Office of Governor Jim Gibbons was notified today that President Barack Obama has refused to meet with the Governor and key business leaders from Nevada. Governor Gibbons requested the meeting in a letter to President Obama so the President could address statements he made that were critical to Nevada and have caused economic damage to convention business and tourism business in the Silver State. Earlier this year, the President told an audience in Elkhart, Indiana, "You can't get corporate jets. You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayer's dime." That quote was seen by many as an insult to Las Vegas and as a message to companies across the Nation to stay away from Las Vegas for corporate meetings and conventions.

The Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority reports over 400 conventions and business meetings scheduled to take place in Las Vegas recently have cancelled. These cancelled events translate into 111,800 guests in Las Vegas and over 250,000 "room-nights". The cancelled conventions and meetings have cost the Las Vegas economy over $100-million, not including gaming revenue.


Governor Jim Gibbons (R) served in the U.S. House of Representatives from 1997 to 2006 and was elected to Governor of Nevada in 2006 and assumed the office 1 Jan 2007.

Why do you think President Obama is refusing to face this statement he made that is substantially hurting the citizens of Las Vegas and Nevada?

Gibbons criticizes Obama over denied meeting request

"I am disappointed at the hypocrisy shown by this administration," Gibbons said in a prepared statement. "President Obama is coming to Las Vegas later this month for a political fundraiser, but he will not help the struggling families in Las Vegas and Nevada who are out of work because of his reckless comments."

"This is politics, pure and simple, President Obama stood for change, but all he has done is brought negative economic change to Nevada," Gibbons said.


[edit on 5/18/09 by Ferris.Bueller.II]


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 09:22 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by gYvMessanger
At a time when your countries economy is on the edge of collapse, you think the cause of this downturn in LV's local economy is because of a comment the president made about officials using tax money for pleasure breaks.

I don't think he should be wasting time on this ridiculous charge, and I seriously hope you didn't actually consider he should.


Do you listen to yourself while you're writing this?

Obama plans Las Vegas getaway to help Harry Reid get big money

And what better way for a new Democratic administration to symbolize cutting out excess in a time of hardship for millions of Americans than to hold a mega-fundraiser in Las Vegas, that urban personification of understatement, for a guy with millions in hand already and no one to spend it against?

Though the Democratic Senate majority leader's May 26 fundraiser at the Colosseum at Caesars Palace will feature Strip headliner Midler and songstress Crow, the biggest draw will be the commander in chief himself.


He tells bankers not to hold conventions in Las Vegas, yet what are he and Pinky doing? But, I'm sure no fun will be experienced, right?



reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 09:53 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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OK. Here's the quote from Obama again.

"You can't get corporate jets. You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayer's dime."

Here's the 'corporate jet' the person who said the above quote is going to fly to Las Vegas on the taxpayer's dime to perform none of his assigned duties as President of the United States.



He's not holding the fundraiser, Pinky is. Obama's only flying out on his 'corporate jet' on the taxpayer's dime to not have fun.

[edit on 5/18/09 by Ferris.Bueller.II]



reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 09:57 PM by cautiouslypessimistic
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Okay, so now obama shouldnt fly on airforce one? This is REEEAAAALLLLLYYYY starting to stretch it, you guys.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 10:00 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic
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Okay, so now obama shouldnt fly on airforce one? This is REEEAAAALLLLLYYYY starting to stretch it, you guys.


No. I see no problem with him flying on Air Force One. I do see a problem with his hypocrisy and partisanship for refusing to apologize for his flippant comment.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 10:02 PM by cautiouslypessimistic
Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic
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post by Ferris.Bueller.II



Okay, so now obama shouldnt fly on airforce one? This is REEEAAAALLLLLYYYY starting to stretch it, you guys.


No. I see no problem with him flying on Air Force One. I do see a problem with his hypocrisy and partisanship for refusing to apologize for his flippant comment.


I think you really ought to re-read his quote, in context, and then look at the reason he is going there again.

This is just another sad attempt to heathenize obama. I'm not even an obama fan, but you guys make it hard to not come off that way with this propaganda.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 10:03 PM by DarkStormCrow
Ways the Left Has Screwed Up My Country Today: Obama's Destruction of the Las Vegas Tourist Industry

I dont expect you to take my word for it, I only live here I get to see the damage everyday, most folks here in work in the hotels and casinos they make most of thier wage off tips. There is a reason why folks cant pay thier mortgages here no tips its that simple when you go from making 200 usd a night in tips to making less than 50usd well you can just imagine.

Funny he seems to be able to fly Air Force One out here probably at a cost of over 1,000,000 to support his buddy Harry ( I am exciting as a watching the grass grow) Ried.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 10:06 PM by cautiouslypessimistic
Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
Ways the Left Has Screwed Up My Country Today: Obama's Destruction of the Las Vegas Tourist Industry

I dont expect you to take my word for it, I only live here I get to see the damage everyday, most folks here in work in the hotels and casinos they make most of thier wage off tips. There is a reason why folks cant pay thier mortgages here no tips its that simple when you go from making 200 usd a night in tips to making less than 50usd well you can just imagine.

Funny he seems to be able to fly Air Force One out here probably at a cost of over 1,000,000 to support his buddy Harry ( I am exciting as a watching the grass grow) Ried.


Again, show me one bit of proof that this is caused by obama and not by the overall economic climate that THIS ENTIRE COUNTRY IS FACING.
Vegas simply staved it off longer than other areas. They are not immune.

When people can't travel, locations such as vegas take a hit. There's that word...LOGIC.

And really, you think a flight on AF1 costs $1,000,000? Hmmmm....your numbers seem fishy to me.

Edit to add: Love the fanatical right wing source though. Certainly doesnt make it look as though tis is a right vs. left thread afterall

[edit on 5/18/2009 by cautiouslypessimistic]


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 10:16 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic
I think you really ought to re-read his quote, in context, and then look at the reason he is going there again.

This is just another sad attempt to heathenize obama. I'm not even an obama fan, but you guys make it hard to not come off that way with this propaganda.


OK. Re-read his quote in context:

Vegas remark still dogs Obama with Nevadans

President Barack Obama had been in office barely three weeks when he made an offhand remark at an Indiana town hall meeting that appeared to warn American businesses against holding conventions in Las Vegas.


He is flying to Las Vegas to raise money for a Democratic Senator for his reelection bid next year.

What am I missing that you think I am?


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 10:19 PM by cautiouslypessimistic
Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic
I think you really ought to re-read his quote, in context, and then look at the reason he is going there again.

This is just another sad attempt to heathenize obama. I'm not even an obama fan, but you guys make it hard to not come off that way with this propaganda.


OK. Re-read his quote in context:

Vegas remark still dogs Obama with Nevadans

President Barack Obama had been in office barely three weeks when he made an offhand remark at an Indiana town hall meeting that appeared to warn American businesses against holding conventions in Las Vegas.


He is flying to Las Vegas to raise money for a Democratic Senator for his reelection bid next year.

What am I missing that you think I am?


He is campaigning withing his party, something well within his job and something THAT EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT HAS DONE BEFORE HIM.

Also, your little snippet says it all. Someone says "it appears to warn". That is someone's opinion. SOmeone like you. Who is sensationalizing for the sake of an agenda.

Sorry, I deal in facts. The fact is, he warned companies that had taken stimulus money and promptly pampered themselves to vacations after the fact.

You might want to put on a jacket--your agenda is showing.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 10:28 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
Originally posted by cautiouslypessimistic
He is campaigning withing his party, something well within his job and something THAT EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT HAS DONE BEFORE HIM.


Yet he told Americans they'd better not. A little bit hypocritical in my book.

Also, your little snippet says it all. Someone says "it appears to warn". That is someone's opinion. SOmeone like you. Who is sensationalizing for the sake of an agenda.


Did you read the next paragraph from the one I posted?

Within days, casino executives were complaining that several lucrative conventions had been canceled because of the president's remarks. Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman demanded an apology. The comment is still referred to by casino executives testifying before the Legislature on the dire state of the gaming industry.


Sorry, I deal in facts. The fact is, he warned companies that had taken stimulus money and promptly pampered themselves to vacations after the fact.

You might want to put on a jacket--your agenda is showing.


Facts? I haven't seen one from you yet. You're stating it's A-OK for the President, who is leading a country in dire financial crisis, to dictate what businesses can and can't do, then turn around and do exactly what he told them what not to do. A little bit hypocritical in my book.

EDIT: Well, I need to hit the sack for work tomorrow. I've voiced my opinion on this matter, and I know the Obama-philes will never see any wrongdoing on Obama's part in this matter. That's just a symptom of too much kool aid swigging on their part. Good night all!

[edit on 5/18/09 by Ferris.Bueller.II]
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