Nimrod...I'm also in Canada and couldn't agree more. It makes me so angry that they appear to not be giving us full disclosure here, and were still saying no one had been hospitalized with the virus here, when we know that even here in Vancouver, one of the first 2 diagnosed was hospitalized. And they kept the young child in hospital in Alberta quiet for 4 days, telling us no one was hospitalized.

I wish they'd be more honest about it, as the attitude here is only causing people to become complacent and allowing it to spread. I think Canada has done a lousy job containing this virus.

Most places here in TX are not testing for this either. It is not being taken seriously at all. And theres more than one strain, h3n2 was confirmed here recently too.

[edit on 7-5-2009 by Memysabu]

Why do people run to the doctor for every little sniffle?
You only crud up the system for people who are really sick.

People who are really sick shouldn't be going to doctor's offices and giving it to people who don't have it.
If you are really so sick, go the the hospital.

20 years ago my whole family was sick -- no one went to the doctor or even call him.

We all survived!

The over prescribing of antibiotics is what is causing viruses and bacteria to become antibiotic resistant and mutate faster than ever. Many physicians would criticize that.

Otherwise, why would they ask for your income, age, etc? Simple, statistics. That's what epidemiologists study, they learn about how certain conditions affect people in all styles of life and pinpoint the ones that are most at risk, so that they can prepare and help that group the most.

That's pretty typical in any outbreak.

about 1 week before the Swine flu became news on tv & ats I was having similar symtoms. For about 3-4days I was very Nauseus, tired, exhausted, had diaharra, severe headache posteriorly and my throat become hoarse where I couldnt speak. I thought at the time that was Very ODD. Also, It was different from any other colds or flu symptoms ive had in the past uusually with flu your out sleeping throughout the day. However, throughout the day I would sleep for 2-3hrs long, then wake up energized, but then within an hour I would get really weak & tired. So I would go back to sleep for another 2-3hrs & then wake up somewhat energized....but again within an hour or 2 would feel like collapsing & go back to sleep. This happened for about-4days....and went to the doctor for it but it wasnt in the news until about 4days later. He said I probably had what my son & husband had the week prior which is what my sons pediatrian said was a Stomach virus going around.
The only reason I thought it wasnt Swine virus is that I didnt have a Fever.....but then I remember someone elses post on here saying there Temp went Down.
My husband who took my temp at the time when I was sick said my Temperature LOWERED??

So,...maybe this "Swine" virus EFFECTS people in different ways depending on their Immunities. For example, about 2 yrs ago me & my 2 small kids had the FLU vaccinations (which I Wish I never got)....because the next winter we ALL got Strept throat & other symptoms (08') Except my husband who never got vaccinated.

What if this virus is being Downplayed my the doctors because there isnt enough tests, beds, room, ventilaters, and doctors to check out everyone. Im sure theyre being told my higher up folks not to alert anyone unless there clearly dieing. But thats not good enough for me....its like they want us to get sick in the Dark where no one knows because there not diagnosing the people who do have symptoms. Another example is the issue of closing the Mexico borders when they had the chance. We all know they clearly know more than what theyre stating....which means they knew about this "Virus" way before it became serious where people in mexico where dropping dead.
WHY? Maybe because they want us to become Infected....but for some reason the people in the US immunities are fighting back. Whether this was expected by the higher ups or not.....it has to be just a taste of what there willing to PUT OUT.

So far from what Ive been reading on this thread the people who had NEVER been sick in the past have become really effected by this "Swine" virus......So maybe its better to become exposed before the Next hit of viruses come along......

I hope the only reason the doc didn't test you for swine flu is because the symptoms didn't appear severe enough, or that there was no reason to believe it was anything other than a normal sort of flu....

I just got sick with something the last couple days here. My sister came from Nova Scotia where some of the first Canadian swine flu cases were. My boyfriends parents just got back from Mexico about a week ago. My mom's friend's son is one of the cases in Ontario - he got it from going to BC on a work-related trip, he thinks....
So there we have 3 potential ways that I've been exposed now. Great lol....

I've been sleeping for 3 days, have all the symptoms other than I never took a thermometer to figure out what my fever was at.
It's just like a normal flu right now, only my throat is unusually painful and the head congestion is unlike anything I've ever experienced. It's actually dehydrating me. I went through 2 double size rolls of toilet paper blowing my nose within the last 24 hours and that's despite me putting it off because I was too tired and achey to move, ignoring it when I can because my nose is about to fall off from the chafing. I can't hear properly out of either ear from the pressure. It'll feel clear for a moment after blowing my nose and then suddenly just fill up and start um...spilling out..I have to be prepared haha...sorry that's gross.

Oh, also, woke up and felt like I hadn't been breathing, and like I couldn't breath. I don't have any congestion in my lungs or throat though, just my head, so I thought that was odd. I ended up nearly panicking because it was such a struggle to get feeling like my breaths were getting me any oxygen, so that didn't help...odd. It wasn't like my chest was tight or anything either. But after a half hour I seemed to have worked it out and got things going again lol

Feeling better for the moment, enough to sit around awake in bed with my laptop, and be drowsy from cold meds at best.....
Loaded myself up with cayenne and vitamins and teas and whatnot.
I don't want to go in and be tested. My cousin got sick and said they wouldn't even let her into the emerge ward to start with. So probably no point in drawing attention to my self, seeing as I work FOR the services running that hospital....and have no shifts for a few weeks coming up. And won't get the flu shot. Oh my. Rebel. They don't much appreciate that...as if it would stop the swine flu.

Anyway, if it isn't swine flu (i'm guessing this is pretty rare by comparison anyhow), there is definitely other stuff going around....
Take care of yourself!

Virus and Bacteria are two completely different things, as well as Fungi, 3 complete and separate Pathogens lumped into one by the mainstream media and Doctors.

Antibiotics only work on 12 different "Bacteria", Antibiotics don't even begin to cover "VIRUS or FUNGI". Silver kills Hundreds of different types of Bacteria and quite a few Virus. Dig deeper folks, you are being robbed of vital knowledge that we should all have.

Virus and Bacteria are easily killed by "Colloidal Silver", Homeland Security uses it and Airplanes have Silver impregnated Air Filters

hey there, 'just came back from the clinic'

the staff did you a bug favor by not administering a flu shot...
did you know that the 1976 SIV, swine flu outbreak had more people
die from the immunization than the randomly caught Flu itself...


myself...being a good citizen (albiet a naive citizen) went to the local
flu shot clinic that President Ford urged us all to go to....
got my gov't paid shot, and 2 hours later i had 104 temperature, delirium, etc...
i was reacting to the EGG cultured immunization, the staff never warned
the populace of allergic reaction if one is allergic to whole eggs.

trouble is --- I nor anyone else can sue the government for gross neglience in regards to the '76 swine flu fiascos.


the only innoculations i've voluntarily taken since that episode is 2 teatnus shots and a pneumonia shot from the VA clinic...
i'd rather be sick 3-5 days with a flu than risk any other bureaucratic ineptitude...

thanks,

I want to edit my prior post, but not sure how to do so- just wanted to add I misspoke previously- my temp was 97.5- not 95.5- lower than healthy, but not hypothermic. My apologies for the mis-type. Nevertheless, it was low enough to confound me and my docs, and to make me feel incredibly ill.

Please take care, P, and we will keep in touch on the new thread about our collective health.

Be well, all-

Peace

Only one way to properly diagnose if you have swine flu:
Rent-A-Pig

Sleep with it.
Check on pig's health the next day.

As for the poster that couldn't breathe even though he only had his nose clogged up:
If you tend to sniff it up a lot (or even if you don't) after a while it can get so bad that it kinda leaks into your throat and sticks around there, it basically moves the snot to your throat, then blocks it there as well. Feels like crap and it sucks, but drinking some water and forcefully coughing managed to clear it up for me xd.

As for people that say they had symptoms: I once had a regular flu that gave me both undercooled temperatures & overheated temperatures that could've gotten me killed (42* Celsius & 28* celsius). That was years before the swine flu broke out. I also had to vomit and felt like crap. The undercooling actually got caused because I took a hot-coldrex (which is supposed to relieve flu symptoms xd)

I think the hype is really influencing the way some people think about their illness. We had a 3-year old dutch girl that had the swine flu here, and she turned out to be fine in the end. (Though young people + ''severe disease'', i'd expect them to turn out really bad)