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Originally posted by Preest
Some of you are living in extremely vivid dreamlands...it's sad...it's like a bunch trekkers who refuse to take their spock ears off.
I do offer up creative answers...but I won't sacrifice common sense or coherence in favor of what you'd like to call, "creativity". I'm open to hundreds of possibilities and theories and I'm always willing to hear peoples ideas...until they sacrifice a bit of maturity and pop the spock ears back on.
Originally posted by mOjOm
While others of us assume the Role of Those who Claim to Know and Speak the Truth, Preest, although it's nothing more than a False Title, or An Empty Shell with No-Thing In-Side. No-Thing of In-Terest, No-Thing of In-Sight. Just remarks which serve only to destroy the ideas of others. Nobody here is trying to Claim that they alone have solved the mystery or mastered the technique. Some ideas may even be classified as nothing more than Creative Guesses. But atleast it's an effort to Create Answers.
All your effort so far seems to be in destroying the ideas of others. Why not offer up some of your own Creative Answers instead?? It is more Productive when searching for the Truth to Come up with Possible Answers than Shoot Them Down, don't ya think?
Originally posted by Byrd
Actually, the information there's exactly why I think it's a hoax.
* It shows up in the same place as another complex one of a few years ago.
* They've gone from simple circles to landscape designs (if they were genuine, we'd have had the complex designs from the first.)
* They speak English. Furthermore, they know 8-bit ASCII. This implies that they landed on Earth, went to Radio Shack, bought a Model I (or equivalent) and started learning system basics. In English. However, they don't bother to learn the English alphabet.
* We didn't broadcast any messages to space using ASCII code. It would have been useless and indecipherable to any other civilization.
* They don't repeat the message around the world in other languages.
* The "challenge" from the webpage was "I challenge you to duplicate this." The web designer is apparently unaware of all the programs we had in the 1970's and so forth that made pictures (like the Mona Lisa) with simple letters and numbers. We still have those around, andif you know where the software is, it's a trivial matter to lay it out.
* Why would space aliens run around mainly English-speaking countries, doing crop stuff (and obeying local laws about ownership and travel restrictions during the various hoof-and-mouth outbreaks)? Why don't they just land in the middle of the field and wait for someone to come say hello? Why don't they just hover overhead for awhile and then broadcast a message?
I needn't prove any of those...because those aren't my theories. My theory is that at this point nothing can be proven...BUT...if one used a bit of common sense and asked themselves why an advanced lifeform capable of traveling great distances in space to come to Earth and avoid first contact to monitor us would leave markings in fields...WHY NOT THE SEARS TOWER? Why not the side of a mountain? Why not the face of the moon? Common sense says that if it is men...they're probably not drunk...and probably far smart than you and I put together. Which doesn't mean men making these is impossible...fact of the matter is...men making these is far more plausible then aliens.
Originally posted by mOjOm
Preest, all I'm saying is that you haven't shown evidence as of yet showing that Crop Circles AREN'T 'Government DisInformation, Galactic Gang Tagging, Art from Little Green Men, The Incredible Masterpieces of a Couple of Drunken Old Men, Quantum Physics Annomolies, or the Begining of a Mother Earth Consciousness Coming to Life'.
I posted several times on this same topic in another post on this board a few days ago in which I stated that man has created far more complex structures, designs and technology and for anybody to state that men aren't advanced enough to make crop circles YET aliens are possibly relying on primitive road mapping was preposterous.
Originally posted by mOjOmSo far all I've seen by you is 2 posts. One stating that everyone is crazy to think that the Government is Hiding something and that Mankind is has created many incredible things.
This board is crawling with children with severe mental issues, sci-fi obsessions and some are just paranoid nuts. If you chose not to believe that but chose to believe aliens might be the cause of crop circles then I'd have to ask what medication you take.
Originally posted by mOjOmThen the other post about how everyone is suffering from some kind of Sci-fi nerd disorder and refuse to see the truth.
Well, I'm asking you, to back up your claims, first of all. Second, until you do back up your claims, or can present some evidence to present an arguement against another persons idea, you shouldn't call people crazy and shoot down their ideas. I mean, what if it is Little Green Men?? Interdimentional Light Beings with an Artistic Side or something??? At this point it makes as much sense as anything else.
Personally, I think we are certainly capable of doing such things. Although the technology to create some of these designs along with the changes that happen to the plants themselves is more than a couple drunken old f*cks with some planks and rope. The Crop Circle Pros that are out there, maybe. But what kinds of equipment are they using to create the Electrical Disturbances. Or changes in the Stocks, which are most likely some kind of controlled Microwave.
How about the area that these teams are able to cover and then create such designs without being caught yet.
Even most telling, when it comes to Government Coverups, which you say is Not the Case. Why is it, that as many of them that appear and their incredible and artistic nature and mystery, why don't you see any coverage in the main stream news? Nothing, except of course some 'Specialist' now and then saying that they are all a bunch of B.S.
But ok, let's say there really is nothing of interest to report then. Well, if these Crop Circles are just some goofy prank and stuff, then why and HOW did those Two Drunken Old Fools make World Wide Coverage with such short notice?? I thought there was nothing to report right?? I guess the media only feels there is nothing of interest unless it's some Unsupported Theory to explain away the entire thing. Then it's major news and everyone goes along with the story.
Does it sound like an air tight theory there?? Doesn't something seem just a bit strange to you??
That's all I'm trying to say man. I just don't like reading threads where Ideas, even if very unlikely, are bashed and said to be crazy, but those who say the claim is all nonsense never present proof of why that is so, or have their own theory to put out there instead. You see what I'm saying. I'm awaiting whatever your theory may be, if you throw it out there. But until you do, Little Green Men are showing me more material than you. (BTW, I'm not some trekkie with Spock ears and sh*t on my head! I'm a Star Wars Fan with a Wookie Suit and Lazer Crossbow FYI!!!)
Well, recently, there was a show that explained how crop circles can be made with a knowledge of geometry, a plank, string, and three people
Originally posted by Sapphire
I watched a video not too long ago of a camera man from England and a couple other ppl who caught a crop circle being created on camera. There was a light bouncing around and afterwards they found a crop circle there, a farmer on his tractor nearby also saw this as the light passed over him. No humans involved and it was in broad daylight, explain that?