Photographic evidence that at least one moon mission is fake!!

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I wouldn't get so excited about that. Please take note of the utube user who posted the 'trailer'...it is a guy promoting his OWN movie, for fun and profit!!

Jose Escamilla is a hack, and a fraud. Probably, he knows that the LRO will soon cause the market for his baloney to dry up...he needs to capitalize on people's naivete' while he can.

Back to reader's OP. We've run amuck in this thread, as is usually the case, but I believe the intent of reader's claim was that photos were 'fake' because of one photo that is alleged to show 'clouds'...

I happen to think it's a tempest in a teapot. Since we have plenty of video that doesn't show any 'clouds' or anomalies, it comes down to a chance angle of a shot where the helmet visor catches the light in a peculiar way. Not an expert on the composition of those gold visors, but I would venture a guess that they were multi-layered and sandwiched in their construction. Think of how your car windows reflect light, sometimes. Or, your gold-mirrored sunglasses.

I find it peculiar that people will nitpick so readily, instead of marveling at the scope and majesty of the space efforts!!

My edit is because I originally wrote a response to the wrong OP!!





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Hi, I have not decided if the moon landings were hoaxed or not, however while browsing google moon I noticed this, from Apollo 17 site, (top of 1st pic shows which photo it is)
Now if it's a hoax somone got sloppy, if it's not how did this envelope get there (with the little dude holding it, (toy?), there are no footprints near it.
Or perhaps some smart alec at the image processing lab is playing silly buggers and put it there to see how long it would take for someone to find it.

you decide

That's where the children's letters to Santa go. That's an elf dragging it to the workshop

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Good Find

It could be moon garbage.

We did leave alot of garbage on the moon.

I don't think it was added in afterwards though - but I wouldn't put anything past those NASA types.

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www.hq.nasa.gov...



Schmitt probably discarded it while taking samples.
www.hq.nasa.gov...

Fair enuff, but how did it get to where it is, there doesn't seem to be any footprints nearby, and as there's no wind it couldn't have blown there.

I'm still not sure about the little dude tho, lol

reply to post by PennyQ

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There are footprints nearby.

Check again.

(start with your eyes at the bottom right corner, the prints are more apparent there)

I have always wondered how the Astronauts could go to the moon with their suits. I mean a lot of things had to go right for our planet to have the protective layer we call atmosphere around it. How could scientists recreate that in those suits? I want to believe. But it gets harder every time. Like for example the Soviet Union simply gave up on it. The US got to the moon and the Soviets said "Damn they beat us, lets go home." That doesn't sound like them. Maybe something more happened, like contact with a lifeform while they were orbiting earth or something. They for sure reached some sort of agreement. As for the "They stopped cause they had no more money issue." Thats a load of crap, they didn't have to pay anyone for work, they were communists.

So, you think the space shuttle and space station astronauts have never really performed a spacewalk? Those were all faked?


Using that argument (that communist governments don't need to worry about money) then I suppose every communist government everywhere has the best and most technologically advanced "everything" -- because they don't need to pay the people who build those things.

The same way they do today in order to build the ISS... The suits consist of many layers of different fabrics, each with its own purpose, most for insulation. The life support packs are basically miniature versions of what any other spacecraft uses. They're really just fabric spacecraft themselves.
images.spaceref.com...

Actually they said "Damn, our rocket blows up every time we launch it. We'd have to start from scratch on the booster if we want to land on the moon, and we can't afford that."

Just because you're a communist does not mean you're immune from the basic laws behind economics; finite resources, also known as goods and services. Communism simply means that the right to those resources are not earned by the masses based on how everyone else values the own goods and services each person contributes, but it doesn't mean you suddenly have an infinite amount of goods and services. Rocket design and testing is expensive because it uses up MANY goods and services, even when it goes smoothly. The N1 booster development was deeply flawed and basically needed an entirely new approach from scratch. The thing never even made it into orbit safely, every single one of them exploded.

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The Moon looks like the surface of pulverized volcanic rocks covering the
surface.
Yet no supersonic wind to blow dust around as on Mars.
We do have remote control launders that examined the surface however.
So we would know the specifications.

There is no lack of static electricity seeing the sickness of the gray powder.