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LEAKED on FOX NEWS: Plan Orange, the secret plan to bomb Canada!?

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posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:05 PM
Fox News cought live in between a break for commercials on April 18 2009...


The interview groups makes chit chat and later in the segment discuss about a secret government "Plan Orange" to bomb Canada.

Does anybody know what this is about?

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:10 PM
i don't know anything about that, I'll research more into it and see what i can find..

it could be one giant step into the North American Union folks...

[edit on 20-4-2009 by Darth_Prime]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:12 PM

Originally posted by Terrapop
Fox News cought live in between a break for commercials on April 18 2009...


The interview groups makes chit chat and later in the segment discuss about a secret government "Plan Orange" to bomb Canada.

Does anybody know what this is about?

There's no way the world would let it happen. Sorry.

I love this quote..

"I was doing a story up there on the canadian border.... there was just a bunch of wheat.."

dead silence...


[edit on 20-4-2009 by king9072]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:14 PM
reply to post by Terrapop

These guys and galls are some piece of work, they called Canada ....

"a Northern Puerto Rico with an EU sensibility"

Gotta love Fox news.

As far as Plan Orange, the only thing I could find is this:

War Plan Orange (commonly known as Plan Orange or just Orange) refers to a series of United States Joint Army and Navy Board war plans for dealing with a possible war with Japan during the interwar years. The plans were begun informally in 1919 and formally adopted by the Joint Army and Navy Board beginning in 1924 wiki

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:16 PM
Only thing i have found is an old war plan


The first US doctrine of expeditionary warfare came with the development of War Plan Orange in 1890. War Plan Orange changed several times from its initial inception. Theodore Roosevelt started War Plan Orange in case of war with Japan. The annexation of Hawaii in 1898 relieved tensions of possible Japanese claims on the island, but the United States (U.S.) remained wary and continued to update War Plan Orange, which consisted three phases.

there is more about it at this link

*edit to add*

looks like schrodingers dog beat me too it

[edit on 20-4-2009 by Darth_Prime]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:17 PM
Yeah there was a "plan orange" or "war paln orange" but that was way back in the 20th century before WWII about certain scenarios that could happen and what counteraction would be best....

War Plan Orange



posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:21 PM
The video is taking forever to load, so while it loads I'll mention that Plan Orange was a strategy devised against the Japanese, here's a couple of links about it:

War Plan Orange (commonly known as Plan Orange or just Orange) refers to a series of United States Joint Army and Navy Board war plans for dealing with a possible war with Japan during the interwar years. The plans were begun informally in 1919 and formally adopted by the Joint Army and Navy Board beginning in 1924.[1] Predating the Rainbow plans, which presumed the assistance of allies, Orange was predicated on the U.S. fighting Japan alone.

Now that the video has loaded, it seems they're talking about some ad campaign? not sure but I think the Plan Orange thing was the guy not quite sure of what he was talking about.

What I think he meant to say was war plan RED:

War Plan Red, also known as the Atlantic Strategic War Plan, was a plan for the United States to make war with Great Britain (the "Red" forces). It was developed by the United States Army during the mid 1920s, approved in May 1930 by the Secretary of War and the Secretary of Navy, updated in 1934-35, and officially withdrawn in 1939, following the outbreak of the Second World War, when it and others like it were replaced by the five "Rainbow" plans created to deal with the Axis threat. However, it was not declassified until 1974. The war was intended to be a continental war, waged primarily on North American territory between the United States and the British Empire. The assumption was that Canada would represent the ideal geographic forum through which the British could wage war against the United States.

[edit on 20/4/09 by Chadwickus]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:32 PM
Here we go, all the colors of the rainbow:

List of color-coded war plans

War Plan Black was a plan for war with Germany. The best-known version of Black was conceived as a contingency plan during World War I in case France fell and the Germans attempted to seize French possessions in the Caribbean, or launch an attack on the eastern seaboard.

War Plan Brown dealt with an uprising in the Philippines.

War Plan Citron was for Brazil.

War Plan Emerald was for intervention in Ireland in conjunction with War Plan Red.

War Plan Gray dealt with invading a Caribbean republic.

War Plan Green involved war with Mexico or what was known as "Mexican Domestic Intervention" in order to defeat rebel forces and establish a pro-American government.

War Plan Green was officially canceled in 1946.

War Plan Gold was a plan for war with France and French Caribbean possessions.

War Plan Indigo involved an invasion of Iceland. In 1940, during the German occupation of Denmark, the British invaded Iceland and the U.S. actually did occupy the island nation, relieving British units during the Battle of the Atlantic.

War Plan Lemon was for Portugal.

War Plan Olive was for Spain.

War Plan Orange was a plan for war against Japan, which formed some of the basis for the actual campaign against Japan in World War II.

War Plan Purple dealt with invading a Central American republic, or possibly with Russia (There may have been two different Purples).

War Plan Red was a plan for war against Britain and Canada. British territories had war plans of different shades of red—the UK was "Red," Canada "Crimson," India "Ruby," Australia "Scarlet" and New Zealand "Garnet". Ireland, at the time a free state within the British Empire, was named "Emerald".

War Plan Silver was for war with Italy.

War Plan Tan was for intervention in Cuba.

War Plan White dealt with a domestic uprising in the U.S., and later evolved to Operation Garden Plot, the general U.S. military plan for civil disturbances and peaceful protests. Parts of War Plan White were used to deal with the Bonus Expeditionary Force in 1932. Communist insurgents were considered the most likely threat by the authors of
War Plan White.

War Plan Yellow dealt with war in China—specifically, the defense of Beijing and relief of Shanghai during the Second Sino-Japanese War.
War Plan Violet was for intervention in Chinese domestic events.

In all of these plans, the U.S. referred to itself as "blue". wiki

Citron vs Lemon must have been an interesting conversation.

Anyhoot, the video just seems to show Fox news peeps in the midst of their usual jackassery. Adorable aren't they?

[edit on 20 Apr 2009 by schrodingers dog]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:33 PM
reply to post by Chadwickus

As always the whole story by Chadwickus....Thanks for the info because that's what i also thought this was about.

Hope the Saudi sun dogs are treating you a little bit better by now...


posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:35 PM
That's a little odd, mind you I don't believe at all the US would have any reason to invade Canada. Other than the vast expanses of land we have, and perhaps the lakes.

Then again, the world would not sit idly by and watch as they bombed the nation who pretty much coined the term "Peace Keepers". It would take years of false flag and media propaganda to ever get the citizens of the US to agree with something like that.

Fox is just trying some fear mongering again, welcome to the Fox Nation folks!


posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:37 PM
reply to post by operation mindcrime

Yeah, making friends is fun!

Seems the USA were quite the war mongers in the early parts of last century, Oh how times have changed

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 01:52 PM
Wow. Some of you people act as if Bill O'Reilly or Shepherd Smith was going to do the bombing. This isn't like Fox news are the terrorists. But, to some of you, hating on Fox news is what it's all about.

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 02:03 PM
reply to post by Blueracer

How could you not hate Fox News? I mean really, do they have even one single quality that makes that station or that company worth any sort of time in my life?

No, they are just like any other MSM, it's not just cause it's Fox, CNN is no better and neither is MSNBC. Fox is just more..."out" there than the rest. A little more bold.

Hmm..perhaps that's there one quality, bold entertainment value, tied in with raving, foaming from the mouth personalities like Billo The Clown.


posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 02:09 PM
Well this would indicate that the US Government is willing to manipulate and incite the American public by using violence... I recall a certain real world event that some
say is indicative of this willingness on behalf of the PTB -US gov...

FOX used to be the prime defenders of the US government
I wonder why,
all of a sudden FOX is concerned

remember this?

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 02:38 PM
Okay I'm going to ask a stupid question:

Was this Plan Orange implimented so that the USA could bomb Canada for us to get out of peacekeeper stance and into a more battle-ready-side-with-the-USA stance?

And then if that was the case, if they bombed us there is no way that we would side with them. In order for us to want to side with them the USA would have to have staged a terrorist attack by making it seem like another countries fault...? Sorry I know this sounds stupid but my mind wanders.

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 02:56 PM
Could America even support attacking another country? Isn't America pretty much exhausted right now after the last 8 years and now the economy?

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 10:44 PM

Originally posted by SeeingBlue
Could America even support attacking another country? Isn't America pretty much exhausted right now after the last 8 years and now the economy?

I spent 9 years in Canada and as far as war goes? We, as Americans could probably take over their country with a spoon and a dull knife (plastic). I have seen their military here and it is laughable at best. I won't disrespect Canada because I was there for nearly 10 years and I will respect them because I lived there. But, having said that, I don't know if it was Bush or hunters or what but I was very disrespected in Saskatchewan and for no reason at all. I had people all the time coming up to me with anti-American rhetoric, I would get treated 3rd class working for businesses (strictly canadian businesses). I would get paid the legal amount of pay, but barely, and even teenagers would get paid more than me right out of highschool and I even have college in Power Engineering and computer skills that were used regularly in the businesses. So I would be doing twice the work and getting paid over a dollar less sometimes than the undesearving. Even a girl working for them who was stealing from them (one business in particular) was making 60 cents on the dollar more than me. In Saskatchewan, they treat Americans like crap, but they act like they are your friend to your face. That is why the world thinks they are so nice. They are...until you are not around. I have heard so much bragging here and boasting about everything, that really turns out to be nothing. Hockey, Tim Hortons having the best coffee and doughnuts, Oh yeah, here's a biggie. You'll never meet one Canadian here that isn't smarter than even the smartest American. They watch American TV (Jerry Springer, America's Most wanted, cops etc.) and they think that ALL American's are like this. They think that because our news shows all this violence and evil that ALL Americans are that way, so, in essence, Canada thinks that we have 300+ million criminals in our country who are all toothless, fat and live in prison. They pride themselve in being so smart because of a guy who makes them think we are so stupid (as a whole), someone named Rick Mercer. He has a popular show in Canada called "Talking to Americans", where he goes around our nation (America) and asks many Americans questions and then filters out the "embarrassing Americans" or the "not so enlightened" and brings the footage back to Canada and they all have a big laugh at our expense. I have observed this behavior for some years now, and have come to the conclusion that its all bravado over nothing. I have seen very little, if anything to brag about in Canada, yet thats all they ever do. It's like the kid in school that claims he's so good but can never give you a valid reason why. They still brag about beating Americans in battles here in a few notable Canadian highlights that happened in , get this, 1775 (give or take a couple of years). I got so tired of hearing this same crap over and over. It was before we were even really established as a country, yet they talk as if it were yesterday. They call us stupid, disregarding the fact that we (at least until Bush came into the picture) actually balanced the world's economy and that no one was anyone, unless they went to America to do business. The Canadians even came here to be noticed at all. All of the things America has accomplished in 200 years, has largely gone unnoticed in Canada and all they do is brag about things like 'heallth care' and how smart they are, despite the evidence I have seen. They are so backwards here, people are still watching shows like CHIP's, a backwoods hick show like Red Greene and shows like "The dukes of hazzard etc." and they watch it like it is a present day show. The wheat comment from the news guy? It's all true, all they do here is Farm, Farm, Farm.Everyone I met here is crazy from heavy pesticide usage and this is being generous. Let me clear this up..I was there for nearly ten years and the health care is not ALL free, there is a percentage that you have to pay. Not only that, they have this really cheap healthcare, I'll give them that, but it is horrible. There doctors are useless, they don't know anything and one of them even asked me a question about what I thought was wrong with a patient, simply because I was standing in the same room and knew what a catheter was. I am serious. You might as well be getting your healthcare out of a cut out cardboard box on the side of the road. Yeah, it's pretty much free, but I can't count the number of people I knew in Saskatchewan that died of cancer, simply because their doctors either didn't know what to do, or simply ignored them and they ignored them ON PURPOSE. I saw this. It has been embarrassing for me, to say the least, to have conversations with people here because of the tight Canadian bond they have and the common bond they have, unfortunately, is their disdain for all Americans. It just seems like jealousy covered up by hatred and a propensity to over-shoot the narcissism level, but that is just my personal point of view of someone who lived there for nearly 10 years (recently) and I gave them absolutely no reason for these attacks on Americans or myself. It started the minute I got into the country and never ceased. I knew nothing but xenophobia from Canadians since, I got there. I love their country, I met one person, who I thought was cool and still is, but thats it. ONE PERSON. Nice country, the people could be more humble if you ask me. Even if someone thinks they are smarter than everyone else in a country, it shows ignorance to assume that 300+ million people are all criminals and toothless idiots from a Jerry Springer show. I'm sorry, if I have offended any Canadian here, sure there are exceptions, I just never met them. I think I have experience (9-10 years worth) of what I had to live with on a daily basis. Even my wife and others who saw the way people would treat me with this anti-American diatribe would be disconcerted as to the possibility of the behavior of their Canadian counterparts. Love the country, the people? Hmm, I don't dislike them for no reason. Actually, I never got to meet the REAL people most of the time, they hated me right before I even opened my mouth, most of them. I don't hate them though. I just wish they wouldn't be so two-faced. but yeah, back on topic, the war machine here is nect to nil.

[edit on 20-4-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 11:28 PM
I apologize about the preceeding rant but it's one of those "don't get me started" topics. It is just so frustrating for one person to balance a whole country's sins on your back because a couple of bad apples that get into office, against the peoples wish, I might add. I am just saying, Canada acts like every American worker with a family, personally adjusted our policies the way they are...not corrupt government officials who hijacked our congress and senate and supreme court. They don't see us the way it really is, that we were shammed and forced into these policies and lied to or controlled financially and our families used against us to pass these policies with fear tactics and political tyranny, they hold the 'working guy' personally accountable as if we had something to do with the way things turned out in the states. I am sure they would know exactly what to do as well if they weren't so comfortable with just getting politically screwed all of the time. it's not hard to be content when all you know is your government controlling you and stealing your money from you and having the rights to 'no rights at all', (and replacing gov't figures with more of the same type doesn't count as a freedom, that is just pointless illusion of freedom), which is what happens there all the time. The reason why their government is so quiet over there, and the people, is because they have socialism and their government sticks it to them and they just lay back and just "take it". They consider themselve too good to fight for freedom. So they just go about their daily live while their government gives all of their money away to indians, because they feel guilty for 'something' they did to indians (have yet to ascertain what that is). They barely have any money to work with, virtually no military to protect themselves with so their rationale is "let's give it all away to indians who will use it to get drunk with and do drugs with." Their indians there have more freedom than the typical indian, they have more political pull and the indians can have a new house like every 10 years, no matter if they destroy the one they are in or not. Canadians, have to make do and suffer. Yeah, there's taht intelligence they boast so much about. Tey may not be able to do anything about it any more than we can, but the difference between us abnd them is THAT WE TRY! Tey mock us for standing up to our tyranical gov't while they lay back and get royally screwed by the government they brag about so much. The very gov't that takes all of their hard earned money and just gives it away in magnanamous amounts annually to indians who don't even appreciate it. I am in no way singleing out any one tribe of indians, I am merely stating a truth of what I saw when I lived in Canada. THIS IS HAPPENING. They complain about their governments actions constantly, but they don't even try to make it better for their families. I bet this is not known to many, there is actually a cut-off amount the the average working person can make in Canada. You can only make so much money, so if you work any extra over-time???? The government takes ALL of your remining money. There are nurses here getting 29+ dollars an hour and netting the same as a lot on a pay scale much lower than theirs. It's insane that the more you work in Canada....the more the government litterally gets. When your hours have peaked, it doesn't matter..YOU GET NO MORE MONEY AT ALL. You can work 20 hours extra and your government gets nearly 100% of all that YOU worked for. Thy just lay back and accept this. I am not saying Democracy is better than Socialism or any of it. I don't care. I would invent a new paradigm of government political ideologies based on morals and fairness where a man/woman could get what they worked for and the ability for the government to rip-off the people would be checked by overseers that would have to be proven as to their level of trust or be replaced. This type of government, we will never see though, as there is too much power and money and pork-barrel spending and fine things for political leaders and their constituents to store up for themselves. Greed always outweighs the need. The government over in Canada is just as corrupt as ours, there's just not nearly enough to talk about considering the ratio of people per ratio and proportion. I just thought I would say I am sorry about the rant, but I also think there's alot that needed to be cleared up about the real Canada we don't know, not just the one we are shown. I speak for all Americans over in Canada who have met the true beast of bias concerning what has recently happened to our country post BUSH.

[edit on 20-4-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

posted on Apr, 20 2009 @ 11:37 PM
reply to post by sinister_scarecrow

Not to make a fuss but where are you getting this from??? There's no limit to how much money you can make, just a progressive income tax level from the CRA, similar to the IRS:

What are the income tax rates in Canada?

There's no secret cutoff level where you stop being able to keep your wages, just one you make more than $126,264 you have to pay the maximum tax rate on income over that level.

posted on Apr, 21 2009 @ 12:01 AM

Originally posted by oneinthesame
reply to post by sinister_scarecrow

Not to make a fuss but where are you getting this from??? There's no limit to how much money you can make, just a progressive income tax level from the CRA, similar to the IRS:

What are the income tax rates in Canada?

There's no secret cutoff level where you stop being able to keep your wages, just one you make more than $126,264 you have to pay the maximum tax rate on income over that level.

I can get the details for you later, I don't know the details as I have a problem with landing jobs at all there. My wife is still a nurse there though and she can only work so many hours before the govenment gets all the rest. She complains about it constantly and some days won't even go to work when asked because it would have been working for free. I'll explain, when I get the info.

Ok this is not a gov't site (they tend to hide unpleasant things sometimes) but here are some people who know what i am talking about concerning overtime pay in Canada.


If you are a salaried employee (i.e. you get paid a set amount per year, instead of hourly), you're probably not entitled to overtime pay, unless you have a standing agreement with your employer.

And sure, you can refuse to work them, but it'll probably get you fired eventually. Salaried employees get a lot of benefits hourly employees don't... if the company asks you to work extra hours once in awhile, you're kind of expected to.
I'm in IT, too, and I don't get paid overtime, even though I work quite a bit of it sometimes. But on the other hand, my employer gives me paid vacation time, pays for 100% of my health insurance, and contributes to my 403b retirement plan.


If you are on salary, you probably are not entitled to overtime, but it can depend on exactly what you do.
You can refuse to work overtime, and they can refuse to continue to employ you.

I'm sure if this is happening everywhere, there will be someting i can scrape up soon, Ill just need a name for Stephen Harpers' policy regarding this. I just know he is the one who passed it. As stated, nurses are expected to do lot's of overtime, so this becomes a real problem not getting your pay while you work all those extra hours. I'll continue to update when I find your irrevocable proof of this.

Ok, I just talked to my wife and she doesn't know the name of Stephen Harpers policy, but she did say it was essentially a "wage cap", she said that she makes only so much and then the rest goes to taxes no matter how much she works and the Canadian gov't gets all the rest. She said that it all goes to taxes after that and that she doesn't even get it back in her tax returns , that she actually has to pay hundreds more when tax returns come back.

Ok, Here it is. Something called Bill C-10 by Stephen Harper. Here is an excerpt from 'The Star Post Newspaper'

The Source

Federal government workers of both sexes face measures that would cap wage increases for the next two years at 1.5 per cent annually. That in itself may mean little. In hard times, it's hard for any union to negotiate big pay raises. But to add injury to insult, the caps are retroactive to 2006. According to the Public Service Alliance of Canada, that means some workers face wage rollbacks. Jail guards are already threatening a court challenge. Harper is also using Bill C-10 to quietly legislate other measures on his agenda that have little or nothing to do with the economic crisis

Notice it actually says it would "cap wage increases".

Here is more on this 'wage cap'

Source: Windsor Star News

First, is the introduction of public sector wage caps. The Harper government plans to introduce legislation "to ensure the predictability of federal public sector compensation during this difficult economic period." That will result in increases of 1.5 per cent over the next three fiscal years.

You wanted to know where I got all of this? It is in the Stephen Harper Bill C-10. The government may not have put this info right on the CRA page because they know everyone will look there, but every gov't has one thing they can all agree on, You can have any laws you want if you bury them deep enough in 600-1000 page bills and seemingly frivolous amendments. More often than not, it's the things you don't see or hear or that are not so relatively easy to acquire, such as something from the CRA website, that will creep up on you financially and you won't even know what is is until it's too late. Call it a secret cut-off level or a wage cap or whatever you want, but you can clearly is no longer imaginary to those who read the bill.
Here is a direct link to the Bill C-10 (Lot's to read)

[edit on 21-4-2009 by sinister_scarecrow]

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