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Certain aspects of the documents are redacted – including the names of CIA officials – but the four memos written by Bush lawyers as a guideline for interrogators offer an unprecedented look inside the methods used as the perpetrators of 9/11 and their cohorts were hunted
Originally posted by jjkenobi
It's not classified as torture because it causes only immediate pain and no short or long term negative effects. I read that article and I got to say the torture methods in there are EXTREMELY lame. Pull someone into a flexible wall? Put in a caterpillar in a box? Having them be naked? Have you seen the videos of jihadists hacking off the heads of prisoners with a dull machette? Wow. Some people need to step back into reality.
I was tortured some 17 years ago (as a POW), and to tell you what, as much as I do not like to remember it I also do not like people telling me that it did not really hurt me and the pain was only physical and temporary. Two 75% damaged disks (and few other serious issues I would not like to talk about here) in my spine are legacy to that and some 10 years of inner struggle of dealing with the horror of it and participation in the war itself... Torture is wrong, no matter how you slice it, changing very definition of it does not change how those who are tortured feel about it
I read that article and I got to say the torture methods in there are EXTREMELY lame. Pull someone into a flexible wall? Put in a caterpillar in a box? Having them be naked?
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Still think torture's cute sunshine?
Get a grip. Like they're going to willingly disclose their most ethically questionable or reprehensible interrogation methods to the public.
Originally posted by 5thElement
Originally posted by jjkenobi
It's not classified as torture because it causes only immediate pain and no short or long term negative effects. I read that article and I got to say the torture methods in there are EXTREMELY lame. Pull someone into a flexible wall? Put in a caterpillar in a box? Having them be naked? Have you seen the videos of jihadists hacking off the heads of prisoners with a dull machette? Wow. Some people need to step back into reality.
Nice
I thought that terrorists are lawless bunch of crazy suicidal criminals with religious nut flavor added and that we are as the most powerful beacon of freedom, human rights and equality and that we do not break our own and international LAWS, but, I guess, that is simply just not the case...
I was tortured some 17 years ago (as a POW), and to tell you what, as much as I do not like to remember it I also do not like people telling me that it did not really hurt me and the pain was only physical and temporary.
Two 75% damaged disks (and few other serious issues I would not like to talk about here) in my spine are legacy to that and some 10 years of inner struggle of dealing with the horror of it and participation in the war itself...
Torture is wrong, no matter how you slice it, changing very definition of it does not change how those who are tortured feel about it
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Yawn.
The "everyone else is doing it" excuse huh? I was waiting for someone to chime in with that.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
So because Al-Qaeda and Sunni extremists behave like monsters the US can just disregard all of it's high & mighty notions about constitutional freedoms (that they supposedly hate us for) and the right to due process/fair trail/habeas corpus and start behaving like them too?
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Great. Wonderful. How about we just tear up the constitution all together while we're at it, since Al-Qaeda doesn't have one either and it just hinders on our ability to destroy them?.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
What's next do we start creating our own suicide bomber corps. and beheading Iraqi insurgents on CNN too? How many backward steps do you want to take?.
Originally posted by L.HAMILTON
Obama released 'torture' techniques used by the Bush administration in order to avoid ' inaccurate accounts'. It seems alot of study went into these methods, as to where they would fall just short of being officialy called torture. The video in the article depicting waterboarding is disturbing. How such a method is not classified as torture is beyond me.
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Yawn.
The "everyone else is doing it" excuse huh? I was waiting for someone to chime in with that.
Yeah, sorry that tortured and executed US Soldiers are such a bore to you. How come you're not up in arms over their deaths? I don't think that AQ was worried about the Constitution rights and whatnot.
Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
At the very MOST, waterboarding is Psychological Torture. Those who implement it are well trained in the methods involved, and it is most certainly and unequivocally within their best interest to not allow any harm to come to the recipient of such.
I must also say, seriously, when we have Terrorists and nutjob fundamentalists slicing and sawing the heads off of captured allies, how in any shape, form, or fashion do any of the methods presented here represent true torture? One of the methods involved placing a caterpillar into the cell of a Terrorist afraid of bugs, lol, how hilarious is that? That is creative, and it actually WORKED!