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Goldman Sachs Hires Law Firm To Shut Blogger's Site

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posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Goldman are the same fellows who were caught telling all their smaller clients to buy, buy, buy during the 1999 dotcom craze they helped to promote while they were advising the larger clients to dump in smart fashion. The whole time they were shorting everything in site making Billions.

There were loads of proof including email messages (internal and external).

They admitted no guilt, payed a small fine and were back on their way. Business as usual on Wall Street. They like to pick there judges too. When those say 'crime doesn't pay', the brokerage industry is always the clear exception. Look this up if you like.

Now GS is getting a bailout after paying huge bonuses to themselves at taxpayer expense. These people can't be human can they? If they don't act 'human' they shouldn't be treated like one.



posted on Apr, 12 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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that is ASSUMING that mr morgans acusations are actually true - he could just be a libelous fantasist



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:03 AM
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Stories like the one brewing now about Goldman Sachs pulling strings in the market meltdown and bailout just do not go away. Here is why.

The current rage on what passes for Wall Street these days is to pin as much of the blame as possible for the world's credit crisis squarely on to the wide shoulders of Goldman Sachs. The logic being that since Goldman Sachs and it's loyal insiders now effectively rule the world, the firm and its offspring do everything they can to make that world better and safer for Goldman Sachs. Everyone else be damned!

From 2008...

The logic of the conspiracy theorists in this regard is, of course, impeccable: Goldman alumnus Josh Bolten runs the White House, while his former boss, Hank Paulson, runs the Treasury. They both speak regularly to former Treasury Secretary Bob Rubin, now over at Citigroup, who ran Goldman before Paulson and who keeps Paulson and Bolton dangling like puppets on a string. They all supposedly touch base with the heads of the Italian and Canadian central banks—both Goldman alumni—and with Robert Zoellick, head of the World Bank, ex Goldman. What's more Paulson is now getting his advice on how to handle the crisis from Ken Wilson, the recently retired Goldman partner and financial-institutions M&A banker, who Paulson just recruited to Washington to help him out. Already at Treasury were Goldman alumni Dan Jester, Anthony Ryan, David Nason and Bob Hoyt, the department's general counsel.

www.thedailybeast.com...



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by tiso_us
I had a hunch this is he case, after seeing money from other firms flow into Goldman Sachs. Morgan must be onto something to tic off Goldman Sachs.

is Goldman Sachs the mastermind behind all this economic mess?!?.


Didn't they say they had people everywhere in an article or something, that many will die and then they said it was a fake, something like that?



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:22 AM
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Originally posted by mike dangerously
Goldman Sachs going after this guy just shows they may indeed have something to hide why else do you go after some blogger unless they are afraid that he may uncover something,perhaps where all that bailout money really goes?


Exactly. And why do people care if they are recorded and monitored on camera unless they have something to hide?



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 01:10 AM
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Hang on people

I am not saying that this man doesnt have a case against GS. They certainly deserve more scrutiny and investigation. But:


Speaking to The Daily Telegraph, Mr Morgan explained how he went through a similar battle with US homebuilder Lennar a few years ago after he set up a website to collect information on what he alleged was shoddy workmanship in its homes. The pair eventually settled out of court.


Looks like he may be trying again to settle things out of courts, in other ways: a lot of cash. I wont be surprised if it ends up the same, he is not a fighter he is a profiteer.

Two wrongs don't make a right.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 01:25 AM
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Well doing a little research I can see the website is not very well search engine optimised aka SEO short for search engine optimization. I am going outt on a limb here and say the site owner would be none to disappointed if a surfer typed either the keyword/phrase Goldman Sachs or 666 into google that his website would show up on the first page. But I looked at google and yahoo and don't see it showing for either phrase.

Another way of putting it is

"If" the site owner was interested in linking Goldman Sachs to 666.

IE someone searches for "Goldman Sachs" or "666" it would be a little easier to do with the keywords in the domain. such as in GoldmanSachs666.com It does help if you know a little about SEO.

But like I said I dont see it in the search engine result pages [serps]

Because the google Results show 1 - 10 of about 10,600,000 for the phrase Goldman Sachs. Only 10 million pages is the results is more in the middle of the road from an SEO perspective You can see SEO Examples Here


Unfortunately, The disclaimer does not protect you from trademark infringment.

Sorry if this is simple seo stuff to some of you. IMO its more about trademark infringement rather then an attack on free speech...



[edit on 13-4-2009 by ranhome]



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by mybigunit
Goldman Sachs going to report near record profits?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I mean wow. They want to quell free speech at the same time stealing from the American taxpayer. I think there needs to be a protest outside of Goldman Sachs.....


Protest outside of their offices? #, their stormtroopers will shoot first and the MSM and government will smile and nod as they always do.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by Darky6K

Originally posted by mybigunit
Goldman Sachs going to report near record profits?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I mean wow. They want to quell free speech at the same time stealing from the American taxpayer. I think there needs to be a protest outside of Goldman Sachs.....


Protest outside of their offices? #, their stormtroopers will shoot first and the MSM and government will smile and nod as they always do.
Of course they will and the MSM will portray any protesters as "domestic terrorists".



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 03:37 AM
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Haha I guess the eager beavers at Goldman have been too busy with all the strippers and blow over the past decade to have heard about the "Streisand effect."

en.wikipedia.org...

It's just a term for the paradox of censorship on the internet, where censoring something lights up the site like a Christmas tree.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by mike dangerously
Of course they will and the MSM will portray any protesters as "domestic terrorists".


I thought they ALREADY did


Fact is, we need to make more of a statement. The government won't listen, and many people are still hard on for either Bush or Obama and won't look at facts. At least Europe and parts of Asia have woken up.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 07:20 AM
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Just wanted to post some ATS background on how GS is completely immersed in this financial collapse, lending merit to the blogger's case:

AIG scams linked to Goldman Sachs

Paulson's last job was at Goldman Sachs

AIG is a money laundering scheme

Goldman Sachs wins big

Absolutely a Banking Bailout cover-up



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 11:43 AM
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Great articles, thank for posting those links!

Goldman Sachs will stop at nothing to keep the "sacred" covered.
While GS maybe using the typical complaints of '' intellectual property rights" and that the site name also "implies a relationship" with the bank itself, those complaints are basically the only way to start a lawsuit, unless GS would wish to start with a charge of slander. That would be a bit hard to prove a the moment.

The only worries on GS mind's is more attention to this: great video. If you ever wondered why Lehman was allowed to fail, listen here and learn the answer!




posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by St Udio

what the blogger is doing with the web-site is just like what Goldman Sachs
does with naked 'Shorts' on the Gold & metals futures...
Attacking an industry



Yeah - this amuses me.

Deutchse Bank - Caught with its pants down selling naked shorts.

Rarely do you get material like that.

Anyhow - the ECB suddenly decided to sell off 35.5 tonnes of gold, and 'coincidentally' at that exact moment Deutchse Bank had to meet a 1.5 million ounce of gold futures - of which it was only able to meet 850,000 ounces actually.

Is it possible that the bank was selling gold it didn't have!!

Oh fie fie - heavens above - of course not - what kind of a reckless financial institution would do such a thing - certainly not one of the reputable institutions, which were are constantly reminded in the press are the saviors of us all, having to bear the horrors of the financial crises upon their labored backs. No - certainly not one of those.

Well - sarcasm aside - hell may be defrosting for Deutchse Bank and many of the other gold manipulator team - of whom Goldman Sachs is a member.

The impossible pressure on the gold price is not going to be averted by a 403t sale by IMF, and traders are realizing that ETF's are just casino chips in a casino that may not have any money.

By law issuers of the ETF's need 90% coverage - they need to hold 90% of the gold by law - so there is no disconnect between supply and demand.

Normally around 1% of gold ETF's might be held them for delivery - allowing banks to simply sell gold they don't have, because they never have to deliver - this artificially inflates the supply of gold - and reduces its price. It also means if you only need 1% delivery - you could sell 100X as much gold as you carried to cover - creating gold out of thin air .. anyone hear a similar expression recently?????

However, last quarter fully 15% of ETF's were held for delivery - I can only hope that number rises towards 100% - then we will see what world currencies are really worth as gold goes stratospheric.

This will also kick the sh-t out of institutions that thoroughly deserve it - and I believe that this would rip them wide open - Goldman, City etc would lose all credibility and their exec's would go to jail where they belong.

Still - its interesting to see apparent collusion between the ECB (European Central Bank) and Deutchse - what an incestuous relationship they all have - still Centrals are low on gold, and gold movements are hard to disguise - I am sure if ETF's are held this will bring it down on their heads.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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While GS maybe using the typical complaints of '' intellectual property rights"

So your saying that people should be able to infringe on other peoples intellectual property rights?!?

I guess its ok until it happens to you.

those complaints are basically the only way to start a lawsuit,

Why do you need more?!? its valid isn't it?




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posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:21 PM
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OMG - I watched the clip with Max Keiser - and I have a new hero. That guy is fkn fantastic haha - beautiful stuff.

I just wish people would shoot some of the crooks in the US - but its hard to get away with it - they on the other hand can kill potentially millions of people through starvation - and laugh about it.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 12:32 PM
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Thank you for your comments. Actually I am not saying that it is "ok" for someone to infringe upon a corporations property rights. However, I am saying that the basis of GS complaint is founded upon the claim of intellectual property rights. Intellectual property is created when an idea takes some tangible form. IP can mean a brand, invention, design or other kind of creation and it can be legally owned. While GS may claim that they have the right to the exclusive use of the name Goldman Sachs, the burden of proof will lie with them. Just having a name does not mean you own that name, thatthe name is your "brand" or the use of that name. IP has become a rather complicated matter.

For example, a typical google search on say...Home Depot will lead you to any number of websites that will have the name Home Depot or many variations as the web address, or the url. Home Depot has tried without sucess to shut many of these websites down. Why have they not been successful? Cyberspace is a whole nother animal...just to open your mind little, do a search on your name. See if anyone has a web address/url using your name or a form of it. Say you did a search and found someone using your name, making thousands upon thousands of dollars. What would you do? You might think you have exclusive use of your name, but most likely you do not.






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posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Amagnon

ECB suddenly decided to sell off 35.5 tonnes of gold, and 'coincidentally' at that exact moment Deutchse Bank had to meet a 1.5 million ounce of gold futures - of which it was only able to meet 850,000 ounces actually.


... hell may be defrosting for Deutchse Bank and many of the other gold manipulator team - of whom Goldman Sachs is a member.

The impossible pressure on the gold price is not going to be averted by a 403t sale by IMF, and traders are realizing that ETF's are just casino chips in a casino that may not have any money.

By law issuers of the ETF's need 90% coverage - they need to hold 90% of the gold by law - so there is no disconnect between supply and demand.

Normally around 1% of gold ETF's might be held them for delivery - allowing banks to simply sell gold they don't have, because they never have to deliver - this artificially inflates the supply of gold - and reduces its price. It also means if you only need 1% delivery - you could sell 100X as much gold as you carried to cover - creating gold out of thin air .. anyone hear a similar expression recently?????

However, last quarter fully 15% of ETF's were held for delivery - I can only hope that number rises towards 100% - then we will see what world currencies are really worth as gold goes stratospheric.

This will also kick the sh-t out of institutions that thoroughly deserve it - and I believe that this would rip them wide open - Goldman, City etc would lose all credibility and their exec's would go to jail where they belong.

Still - its interesting to see apparent collusion between the ECB (European Central Bank) and Deutchse - what an incestuous relationship they all have - still Centrals are low on gold, and gold movements are hard to disguise - I am sure if ETF's are held this will bring it down on their heads.




Welcome to ATS and thanks for contributing some real knowledge and insight.

I came to a similar conclusion about gold as well as other assets assigned values that do not even come close to what they would fetch in the open market.

In lay terms, it is like having an art collection that you use as collateral for loans. You show the bank that the book value is XYZ and the demand continues to go up. But in reality and when the market is flooded, is there anyone prepared to pay anything like book value? Will there even be a collectible art market?


I am still trying to figure out the final settling level when all the bluffers' cards are called. Will the institutions on the overcrowded sinking lifeboat start pushing each other off to survive?

They are trying to keep the game afloat with trading paper back and forth for now? They probably realize it only buys them time?


Mike



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 05:57 PM
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IP has become a rather complicated matter. Its ok if YOU admit you don't understand domains and trademarks because you are right it can be complicated.



Can you please show me a homedepot domain example? Remember I said domain name not sub domain.

And if you can come up with one SO WHAT It's just another kucklehead that doesn't know any better.

The fact that other companies do not protect their trademark does not forefit the rights of other companies that wish to do so. You can call your files and folders anything you want including the domain name in question. I am talking about domain names only.

I suggest you read a couple of domain name infringement cases from here wipo

Looking into the owner of the sachs666 domain. It looks like he does some internet marketing mikemorgan.us

One can only imagine what kind of expert advice he gives his clients


But seriously its not about the content its about the domain he could have chosen a different name. I guess this is his idea of viral marketing.



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 06:15 PM
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They are probably worried about naked short sellers bringing them down.

Possibly some idiot investor taking advice from a 666 site.

Under the current cirrcumstances everyone is wondering what is viable, what is it's value.

No one thought Lehman would fail. there is too much volatility in the markets for their profit to stay so high for long.

I cant imagine Goldman doing anything more than to threaten a law suit. It would be funny to see "Goldman sues Satan and 666"

The market has dropped 777, next Goldman may drop 666. I'll be watching.

[edit on 13-4-2009 by wonderworld]



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