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If you're wondering where to come down on the Gates plan, here's a simple guide: John McCain, the most thoughtful, reform-minded legislator on military issues, "strongly supports" it. Oklahoma Sen. James Inhofe—who has compared the EPA to the Gestapo, Carol Browner to Tokyo Rose and environmentalists to the Third Reich—warns that it will lead to the "disarming of America." You choose.
In recent decades, defense budgeting has existed in a dreamland, where ever-more-elaborate weapons are built without regard to enemies, costs or trade-offs. In 2008 the General Accounting Office said cost overruns for the Pentagon's 95 biggest weapons programs—just the overruns!—added up to $300 billion.
I will gladly pay for my country to be the most advanced in the world.
Yes by all means gut the military and cancel all future programs.
no one has been able to handle those teenagers, not the Soviets in the 80's and not us now.
The Aurora never existed
The 21 they bought wound up costing billions per airframe, which was the excuse used to kill it at 21. The same for the F-22.
and starting up the F-15 and F-16 purchases again, to compliment the F-35.
I'll leave the debate on Aurora for another thread, but I haven't seen ANYONE with one shred of evidence or one GOOD sighting, many years after hearing about it.
They didn't probably didn't reduce funding, they turned it black. But you can't say it's "failed" since it just started development within the last few years.
The F-22 was designed for air superiority, a mission the F-35 wasn't designed for.
It's going to be good at many missions, but not great at any one mission.
You can't say that the F-35 is less maintenance intensive, because there are only a small handful of them flying.
There are signs that it will be a very good fighter, but we won't know that until they're MUCH farther along in the testing program. They're nowhere near ready to start any kind of ACM testing yet, and won't be for probably another year or two.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
You also need to rethink who really has control over your budget and what the hell they're doing with all that "Black money" that goes down the drain and never produces anything viable.
The US taxpayer has paid through the rectum for failed project after failed project like:
The Commanche
the XM2001 Crusader self-propelled artillery
the OICW
Future Warrior programme
DDX Destroyer
The Aurora
Blackswift
X-51
Urban Warrior
the M-16 replacement debate
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Which were all amalgamations of yesteryear's technology with some shiny gimmicks and flashy new bells & whistles added on, that offered little improvement over current Standard Issue gear or even made soldiers more vulnerable.
What do we have to show for all this reckless spending?
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
It's time to take the power away from the tech-nerds and whizz kids over at DARPA, Skunk Works, Lockheed Martin, Northrop and Boeing who've held the military budget hostage with their little pet projects and useless designs which just aren't practical, and who think the solution to every tactical problem is Chemical Lasers, Railguns and STARWARS.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Meanwhile, the GI on the ground needs viable, proven weaponry right now.
It's been almost 15 years since the DOD launched a programme to develop something as basic as an M-16 replacement, and they still don't have an answer.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
The United States military brass just have this imperialistic tendency to rule the world.
They want to pioneer space-based warfare, lasers, railguns, phasers and Death Stars (and god knows what else) before any one else does just to have the upper hand in some potential global struggle in the future.
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
When right now, they can't even wrest control of a country the size of Texas from a bunch of a teenagers with AK-47's and RPG's.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Something was buzzing over Los Angeles during the 1990's doing Mach 5+ test flights in and out of Nellis AFB and it sure as hell wasn't the SR-71.
They proposed a replacement, it got squashed. Satellites and drones overtook that role.
As to what it was designated, the specifics, we'll never know.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Who says we need the F-22 anyway?
The F-35 is cheaper, can fit a wider array of munitions (and far more of them), has 5th generation manoeuvring abilities (albeit worse than the Raptor's) and is far more suited to the mission the USAF faces in the modern world.
The F-22 is a vestigial dream from the Cold War heydays that's just not practical now to upkeep.
Not to mention the F-35 is nowhere near as maintenance intensive as the F-22's stealth's makeup and characteristics are.
To me, the F-22 has an overreliance on stealth that can very easily be defeated by a lot of present day technologies.
Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
Refurbish the F-15s, F-16's, F-18's fleets and continue with the development and full integration of the F-35.
A far cheaper and realistic option.
All those projects were successes. The money spent of those projects thought not directly in use yet, has furthered our technological expertise and scientific knowledge by leaps and bounds, not to mention saved countless American lives.
now known as the Zumwalt class destroyer (which has been approved by the Navy!) as a failed program.
This technology might be used in the future for developing a new generation of unmanned rotary wing aircraft.
As for the OICW program, it led to the future of weapons design with the concept of modular weapons design firmly gaining ground in miltary circles and now seen as an inevitable conclusions.
How did you even come to think that the program was canceled?
In February, the programme was cancelled by the army despite the expenditure of USD2 billion over 10 years. A report from the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC) has urged the army to "review its decision to terminate the Land Warrior programme" and has earmarked USD80 million to resurrect it.
As for the X-51 and Blackswift projects, the X-51 is a scientific and technological demonstrator which has still not been canceled because despite the ignorance in Washington, NASA and DARPA know the importance of investing in this kind of viable technological initiatives which are essential if America is to secure its future
Finally it makes ZERO sense to have an SR-71 replacement in this day and age. Do you know what the SR-71 was used for ? Why do we even need to use such primitive methods these days when US satellites
The XM2001 Crusader project again, can hardly be dubbed as a "failure". The main contention with the program was the high cost per unit compared to existing weapons systems.
The "hangar queens" and "failed prototypes" are what led to the development of some of the most promising technologies by learning from the mistakes made in them and sometimes using those very same "mothballed" concepts in new areas where they have proven to be critical.
Yes take away power from the intelligent people who can actually contribute to the safety and security of this nation and instead squander it in some perverse social programs to feed to lazy and pay the greedy.
Maybe that is why the Army and the Marines to this day still use the M16 because their lives depend on it.
Same hackneyed ignorant BS that doesnt deserve a response.