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Originally posted by KarlG
reply to post by Mason mike
What would a rational person need so many bullets for? Recreation?
[edit on 9-4-2009 by KarlG]
Originally posted by Gorman91
read what I said a few posts up. That's a bad idea and you don;t want that to happen. People simply move on to more larger means of destruction.
Originally posted by DeltaPan
I've no business in the US firearms laws etc, but i do have a general opinion with regards any use of firearms by civilians Anywhere on the darn planet.
Most will cite reasoning of civil defence as purpose to own a firearm or arms.
Well as far as i am concerned, nobody outside military and national security and such should be allowed ballistic projectile weaponry outside of sports where arms are kept at a secure vault at whatever ranges they use etc.
There are enough non lethal alternatives for civilian defence which are being improved and tweaked all the time and i'm also pro advocate to use of non lethal energy weapons from taser tech' upwards but non lethal frequencies, as a right for civilians passing psych' testing, even in countries where firearms are not permitted because these are changing times for every society of every nation.
Guns, ballistic projectile weapons, in society should be outright banned, full stop, period, no exceptions, non lethal weaponry and defences or nothing, end of!
The future is already happening and in my most humble opinion, this is one global change that needs to happen yesterday!
[edit on 13-4-2009 by DeltaPan]
Originally posted by DarkStormCrow
All guns purchased at licensed dealers require that a form 4473 be filled out and a background check is made on each form that is filled out. At minimum a proof of address via drivers license or state id is required. some states have waiting periods and some states have limits on amount of firearms purchased per month.
If a firearm is used in a crime the serial number is traced from Manufacturer.. to distributor.. to licensed dealer.. to the purchaser via the 4473. The last 4473 is considered the owner as far as tracing is concerned so even if the gun is sold to another party without a 4473 the last 4473 can be held responsible if it is determined the seller was negligent.
In my state in order to carry a weapon concealed , I must take a class, qualify with the weapon on the permit , submit to a very thorough background check about and beyond the instant check at the point of sale and then I must pay a hefty and unconstitutional fee for said check. Then I must wait around for 4-5 months for the permit to finally show up. Also since I live in a certain county all of my handguns are required to be registered with the county which is pointless as the 4473 that I filled out when I purchased the weapon is always on file. even if the licensed dealer closes shop all the 4473s are sent to the BATFE for storage.
So what exactly else do you want to do to restrict my rights?
[edit on 4/9/2009 by DarkStormCrow]
Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
Good parenting would negate the need for gun control. However, real good parenting does not exist in many areas and parents blame everything wrong on some other thing rather than taking the time to show and teach their kids right from wrong.
Some kids take longer to accept this and believe it and value it.
Some parents dont' try hard enough.
Some parents leave their family and leave a single parent home where there is not the the supervision that is needed at such a young age to teach right and wrong.
If we better educated our kids and in school with stuff that is actually useful and important than more people would understand the stupidity of using a gun against somebody.
Less people would have to carry guns to protect themselves because more people would be responsible, but people could still carry guns and it would not be an issue because it would be a known thing that gun carriers are very aware and informed about the gun they carry and when and when not to use it.
That is just some of what would help.