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Poll finds nation most polarized in decades under Obama

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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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Poll finds nation most polarized in decades under Obama


www.miamiherald.com

ANKARA, Turkey — As President Obama travels across Europe, a new poll out at home shows he's failed so far to forge any kind of bipartisanship and has polarized the country.

"For all of his hopes about bipartisanship, Barack Obama has the most polarized early job approval ratings of any president in the past four decades," says the Pew Research Center.

The poll finds that Obama has very high approval from Democrats, 88 percent, and very low approval from Republicans, 27 percent.
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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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Very interesting poll numbers that show President Obama has polarized America to a greater degree than any President in 4 decades, and is failing miserably at obtaining bipartisan support for his agenda.

With the economy still in a rut and headed further south with growing unemployment numbers, more massive government bailouts on the way, socialist legislation flying out of congress with a host of plans to grow government bigger and open criticism of America abroad while openly joining with the New World Order crowd in Europe and calls for greater global unity and responses is it any wonder that he is failing big at winning over his opposition?

His campaign style Town Hall Meetings throughout European capital cities have many Americans wondering if President Obama might continue his familiar pattern of gaining election to one office to use it as a platform to run for a higher one.

Is President Obama capable and desirous of delivering on his vague campaign promises of change, or is the change he is really campaigning for to the ultimate detriment of the American people as he continues to erode the fabric of civil liberties and make vague calls for global unity, eyeing the possibilities that a higher office might be created along the way with that as his ultimate prize?


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posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 09:32 PM
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I wonder where these poll numbers might be six months from now if unemployment significantly worsens?

Are the 12% of Democrats who don't approve of Obama simply diehard Clinton supporters?



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 09:39 PM
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Considering I was once a Democrat who eagerly counted down the days until Bush was out of office only to find myself faced with Obama in office I'd say this poll is silly. I think more people are now waking up to the fact that our political parties are simply two heads of the same monster. In other words, they both suck big time.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by Seeker Mom
Considering I was once a Democrat who eagerly counted down the days until Bush was out of office only to find myself faced with Obama in office I'd say this poll is silly. I think more people are now waking up to the fact that our political parties are simply two heads of the same monster. In other words, they both suck big time.


I agree 100%!

The only way to get the politicians to look out for the welfare of the people is to cut off their sources of "corruption" through term limits, not allowing personal profit for themselves or family members while in office and years aftarwards, etc.

Yes, the job won't pay that great... no multi-million dollar board jobs when you leave, no sweetheart positions for your wife, etc.

We then can actually get people in office that are NOT there for personal profit.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by Seeker Mom
Considering I was once a Democrat who eagerly counted down the days until Bush was out of office only to find myself faced with Obama in office I'd say this poll is silly. I think more people are now waking up to the fact that our political parties are simply two heads of the same monster. In other words, they both suck big time.


I couldn't agree more. I honestly haven't voted since I cast my ballot for Mondale! Even then I was fast figuring out that the left simply managed to get done what the right could never get people to do and the right managed to get done what the left simply could never get people to do.

Neither has ever had any trouble exploiting the other's gain.

I wish people would wake up to the reality that having only two so deeply entrenched political parties simply doesn't serve the citizens well.

Thanks for the post.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 10:45 PM
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I agree 100%!

The only way to get the politicians to look out for the welfare of the people is to cut off their sources of "corruption" through term limits, not allowing personal profit for themselves or family members while in office and years aftarwards, etc.

Yes, the job won't pay that great... no multi-million dollar board jobs when you leave, no sweetheart positions for your wife, etc.

We then can actually get people in office that are NOT there for personal profit.



I would love to add to this that I don’t think it’s wise to let Lawyers, the people who practice law as officers of the court, make laws as elected representatives for other Lawyers or themselves later to practice laws as officers of the Court.

I think the Courts really do need to be kept separate from the Legislative and Executive Branches of Government and having officers of the court serving in the Legislative and Executive Branches of Government really doesn’t keep them separate in my humble opinion.

Regular average ordinary citizens should make commons sense laws based on common sense and titled Esquires who practice the Law after highly specialized educations and exams can deal with them then as the officers of the courts that they all are.

We need to get the Lawyers out of running government. Most of them once upon a time were the Lawyers for those big corporations and special interest groups first before running for elected office.

Those entities should only be represented in the courts.

Citizens should be represented in the government and run the government, not lawyers.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 10:56 PM
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Just Remember folks in these hard times it is OUR responsibility to make sacrifices, Sacrifice your Job, your home, your car, and your children's Future. on April 15th don't forget to pay your Taxes, Because the government can't Sacrifice a thing.

Hell they just gave themselves another raise!


[edit on 4/8/2009 by Verd_Vhett]



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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Polarized... well, one one side you have those who understand how the real system works, that both parties are sold and won't go along with the BS Obama is spewing and consider the government as it is, CRIMINAL, TYRANNICAL.

And on the other side, there's the crazies supporting Obama/federal government and anyone opposing them is either a ``Bush supporter`` or a terrorist.

So it's polarized, and both sides won't accept the other side.... But it's not a democrats-republicans division, it's a wake-up VS asleep division. Hopefully the asleep people will wake up.

We'll either have civil war or revolution in this country and in a lot of parts of the world.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by Verd_Vhett
Just Remember folks in these hard times it is OUR responsibility to make sacrifices, Sacrifice your Job, your home, your car, and your children's Future. on April 15th don't forget to pay your Taxes, Because the government can't Sacrifice a thing.

Hell they just gave themselves another raise!


[edit on 4/8/2009 by Verd_Vhett]


April 15th you say? Let me check my day planner here.

Lets see Beach at 9:00 AM, breakfast at 10:30, dog to the groomers at 11:30, lunch at 1:00 PM, Dentist at 2:30, Gym at 4:30 lets see nap at 6:00 PM, Dinner at 8:00 Movie at 10:30 PM...hey that day looks very booked already.

Whens Day Light Savings Time go into effect?



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:08 PM
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And on the other side, there's the crazies supporting Obama/federal government and anyone opposing them is either a ``Bush supporter`` or a terrorist.

So it's polarized, and both sides won't accept the other side.... But it's not a democrats-republicans division, it's a wake-up VS asleep division. Hopefully the asleep people will wake up.


I could not agree with you more. Too bad the mainstream media can’t honestly portray that as it really is.

It almost makes you wonder whether they are that out of touch or want a civil war or a revolution.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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It is not just the lawyers...anyone holding an elected office on the federal level should be banned from running for any other office while in office.

Here's hoping a strong third party emerges in the coming near future.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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It'll just get more and more polarized as the years roll along.
As much as I appreciate the sentiment regarding both parties are the same - yada ya -
I do think there is a growing rift in regards to ideology, which the parties cater and pander.

Amongst the anti two party system folks you generally have a LEFT and RIGHT basis of belief.

Government is the enemy OR corporation is the enemy

Business should be free to do whatever OR business should be conducted by standards set by the people.

I assume many of you POST PARTISAN folks are not willing to really address the brass tacks, which are these considerations.

Provided a great revolution swept in and cleansed the country of party, TWO new parties will fill the void... It is the duality of mankind -

In order to prevent an agenda that is contrary to yours, you WILL vote for the PARTY that does not violate your core sensibilities.

IF there was a libertarian - republican - democrat running which two parties would be attracting similar voters in regards to taxes????

Who would have the advantage


I think many of you do not consider the basic break in society, pro this - con that

='s your vote

As much as I would like to believe Obama was such a terrific polarizer, I think the culprit
is nature and FOX- MSNBC...

Anyhow I don't really like a lot of you, genuinely - we just trade off blame and culpability
because this is how it works, always has.

The real KOOLAIDE is believing that there is something other than two choices - when the two choices can cover most any combination of views and positions.


I assume there would be a similar finding had MCPALIN won...



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:28 PM
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Here's hoping a strong third party emerges in the coming near future.


It sure would be a great thing to see a third even a fourth or fifth party emerge.

One of the problems is the Electoral College almost dictates a two party race for one cantidate to acheive the required number of electoral votes.

The whole electoral college system really needs overhauled it is one of the craziest and screwiest systems in the world.

We need a straight simple process and road to high office.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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The real KOOLAIDE is believing that there is something other than two choices - when the two choices can cover most any combination of views and positions.


Honestly my friend I don't vote. I really only see basically two choices as well...

What the government chooses to do...

What I choose to do...

The former never really factors into what I decide to do and how I govern my own life in the latter.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 02:50 AM
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Um... well, this is kinda expected. Republicans don't really like his stands, but Democrats really do.

As long as he continues to be inspiring, to make the right decisions that is best for the people, and he continues to be a role model for young people in America and around the world... I couldn't ask for more.

RIght now he's already doing pretty good. Economy's recovering, slowly but surely, and his speech to the Muslim world was very well-done.

The polarizing is natural, I guess, in any new presidencies, but after a while things will get better methinks.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by KarlG
Um... well, this is kinda expected. Republicans don't really like his stands, but Democrats really do.

As long as he continues to be inspiring, to make the right decisions that is best for the people, and he continues to be a role model for young people in America and around the world... I couldn't ask for more.

RIght now he's already doing pretty good. Economy's recovering, slowly but surely, and his speech to the Muslim world was very well-done.

The polarizing is natural, I guess, in any new presidencies, but after a while things will get better methinks.


That's a lot of very optimistic assesments Karl.

I wonder if any real statistics bear those assertions out other than your personal perception>

What are you basing your notion that the economy is already starting to turn around? Unemployment keeps going up not down.

Thanks for the post.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 10:45 AM
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Seems to me that the nation isnt polarized along party lines but polarized along the lines of liberty vs. tyranny. A lot of those who supported Obama thinking the evils of Bush were Bush or Republican specific are having a hard time continuing their Obama support when he just continues and in some cases reinforces Bush policies. Sure, there are a few die-hard zombies out there who honestly believe their politician or party of choice is the right one despite the 2,000 lb. gorilla on their face but it looks like (and I hope I'm right) more folks are starting to see the fed for what it really is.



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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That college thing, yea, should go...

But, the congress has the real power. The prez can say he/ she wants this or that and it is up to the congress to provide. Without the congresscritters' support,the job of the prez gets very difficult.

With a strong third (fourth, fifth) party in congressional seats, at least more balance is assumed. It would be more difficult to fool the sheep into believing that a candidate is of one party or the other to get elected.

Nothing short of opening a seated elected official's bank accounts will forestall corruption. The crooks we have now is an example of this. How do these people get rich on an elected officials salary, unless it is directly attributed to corruption?

Why do public school systems have PAID lobbyists? Where do the funds originate to pay these lobbyists? Sorry, off topic...



posted on Apr, 9 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Seems to me that the nation isnt polarized along party lines but polarized along the lines of liberty vs. tyranny. A lot of those who supported Obama thinking the evils of Bush were Bush or Republican specific are having a hard time continuing their Obama support when he just continues and in some cases reinforces Bush policies. Sure, there are a few die-hard zombies out there who honestly believe their politician or party of choice is the right one despite the 2,000 lb. gorilla on their face but it looks like (and I hope I'm right) more folks are starting to see the fed for what it really is.


The Federal Government has become a huge monolithycal entity that exists for it's own power and glory.

With just a few exceptions our lawmakers have never been so out of touch with the general citizenry.

Thanks for the post.



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