My advise for strippers girls!

I feel that stripping is an art form. It is a kind of dance that expresses sexuality. My advise to the strippers is that if they wish to make their dance even more sensual and erotic, they should learn belly danciing.

Belly dancing has a very potent erotic element that moves the coldest of hearts. Many think that belly dancing is an arab thing but this is not true at all. Belly dancing dates back to Babylon, where Ishtar and her priestesses used to belly dance at the temple of ishtar. Elites of the nations used to visit the temple. They used to sleep with the templess preiestesses and often people celebrating outside the temple used to engage in mass orgies under the sky. It was polyamoric, polyandric, group-sex, bisexuality, and everything at once for the masses - and all in the name of sexual spirituality or sacred spirituality.

In belly dancing Ishtar inspired her preistesses to seductively roll the belly muscles as a symbol of fertility of the womb. The rolling motion of the belly is also symbolic of Kundalini energy, the serpent like coiled energy that rises from the base of the spine, the sacrum.



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reply to post by KromeDragon


AGREED.
don't need a pole when you can do this...
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by AccessDenied


Hello AccessDenied!
Have you any experience in belly dancing?

Well I respect all artists and art forms. I believe stripper dancing is an art form. It is sexual art. And those who perform the stripper dances are artists.

If anyone tries to do what strippers do - they will see how tough it is keep men testosterone crazed and still keep them at bay from jumping on to the stage out of control. Right there is risk factor strippers brave in bringing their art to us. Right there is the proof that they conquered their stage fright making them ideal candidates for the field of modern theatre and film.
Could you or I stand on the stage and perform for long periods without slackenning in the skill or grace of our dance moves? But these women keep on performing and they have the stamina so they dont tire. Their moves remain graceful and therefore erotic. You see, muscular distress can ruin the fine movement of dancers. Ballet dancers have to practice for hours before going on stage to have their bodies properly limbered. Imagine the practice that goes into limbering and toning basic muscles groups to stay fit for the dance every night or every alternate night or every second alternate night. Thats a heavier scheldule than for ballet dancers who train for a week long showing and then have a break so they can prepare for the theme of the next show which could be a week or a month away. That means they have time for any damaged tissues and tendons to recover. Strippers on a regular dance schedule dont have time to recover. Infact they have kinesthetically learnt body movements that satisfy the needs of their craft and yet lead to the least possible muscular wear and tear or injury.

Shoot me if I sound cranky, but stripper dancing should be an add on to the olympics women's gymnastic sessions.

Stripper women are in a way psychologists and psychiatrists by the nature of their trade. They know how to move in order to mesmerize a multitude men to feel aroused. Men could be aroused watching porno. But the stripper dance does something else to the audience. That something else is the confidence and the artistic aesthetic flavor strippers give to sexuality. It is the confidence with which they perform live on stage. I think these women would make great actresses if they took a few acting classes, learnt some camera technicalities. Open minded movie / tv directors should give them a chance at show biz. These women know how move! They have honed in on their instincts and evolved it into an art form. Society must throw away narrow-minded bias or religously inspired prejudice against strippers. Lets move forward!

I appreciate the beauty in women. Strippers have a wild kind of beauty that they bring out in their dancing. Their art is a self experssion of the erotica in the form of dance.

No i am not a stripper myself who might be defending my creed. I am a guy with my own opinion. Thats all. Peace

Originally posted by KromeDragon
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Hello AccessDenied!
Have you any experience in belly dancing?

None that I care to share. but I have admired the classes they teach where I live, and picked up a couple of moves.

reply to post by AccessDenied


Good job!

Belly dancing mobilizes the energy chakras, and lead to over all health and well being. The more you perform the moves the better for your sense of well being and better for your dance routines. Go with the flow with belly dancing. Feel it come naturally.

Its really good you are into belly dancing.

If you master even a few belly dancing moves you will control the dance floor. The moves are very versatile and powerful in conveying emotion and erotica.

As a "stripper" or exotic dancer I love the belly dancing aspect. I worked with a girl who did it on stage and would teach it to us. It was really cool and relaxing. I incorporate parts of it in my dancing. Not many people can do it but it's a good idea. It teaches basic hip movement IMO and I fully enjoyed it. I was very sore! Who knew!

I was happy to see your post about dancers being a good one. Thanks!

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You are most welcome. And Thank you!
I enjoyed writing that post and it is something I wanted to express for a long long time. I felt good making that post.

Yes the moves would require practice drills. Increase your tempo slowly. This cannot be emphasized enough. Regular practice will make you better and better.

The belly dancing is great for health. But it will let you dominate the dance floor. It will be an eye-popper for the men when they see you dancing on stage. Believe me, you will rule the stage with those moves. You will have the audience's eyes and thoughts transfixed on your moves, and mesmerized under your spell. This is no exagerration!

Well as a dancer with a dancer wife I can appreciate the stripper art. I do truly believe it is an art. My wife and I study classical ballet and I can appreciate any dance. Some of those girls have got some amazing moves...I actually find myself looking past the nudity right to her hips and her back...I lvoe dancers

-Kyo

I personally have nothing against strippers but I tend to not go to strip clubs mainly because you always leave broke, drunk, and horny with nothing to show for it.

reply to post by KyoZero


"Well as a dancer with a dancer wife I can appreciate the stripper art. I do truly believe it is an art."

Yes! Stripper dancing truely is an art!

"Some of those girls have got some amazing moves"
No Doubt about it! Stripper girls have the among the best choreographed moves in the field of dance. Stripper girls are talented artists.

"...I actually find myself looking past the nudity right to her hips and her back"

Thats the hypnotic effect of belly dancing as well as many stripper dance routines that utilize hip motion. The hip and back is where the kundalini energy originates - from the sacrum. Stripper dancers, because of their own erotic nature and the sensual nature of their art, have activated their Kundalini and related chakras.

I admire stripper girls and their great art form!

Yep Belly dancing is awesome!

But don't underestimate the power of a woman covered in mud!

Ok I am going to get flamed for this I am sure but its my opinion.
I love the nudie bar and have a good time going there.
If I love it too much then I wake up broke the next day.
It is not an art.It is girls trying to earn a living and to do so they need to sucker the man to spend spend spend.Another word would be seduce.The word I use is con.I have seen many girls pretending they actually like the 60 year old dude whos spending money on them.cough con job cough
I do love the nudie bar because the women are more honest then most places I go but still the reality is they need your money to live.
My best days at the nudie bar are when I am in a humorous mood and they end up sitting at my table all night for free just for a few good laughs.
The part where I am going to get flamed is this part...I kinda chuckle when I see a girl take themselves too seriously.
Art no,life yes...art does imitate life but I can't call pole dancing an artform like I can painting or music.
They are just girls trying to make a living as I am.

Another reason it is not art is because of a geisha.
They do not show their bodies which makes a man want it more.
I get more turned on from a woman with clothes on more then a woman in a thong.
If you can have it then why want it is the mentality...people want what they can't have....I can have a stripper any night I want if I have the money.
A geisha is trained in the art of seduction...strippers are just trying to make a living.
Compare a geisha with a stripper.

Sorry if I offended anyone...its not my intention.
Just being honest.


[edit on 6-4-2009 by DrumsRfun]

We must respect the opinions of others. If some feel that strippers are simply manipulating men for their money then- well - that is the opinion of the men who feel so.

I however, are among those who stand by our steady and deeprooted opinion that strippers are artist who should be encouraged and facilitated in the expression and propogation of their art. We believe the stripper art to be an art form- something to be appreciated and valued. And we believe that strippers are talent and beautiful women. They are very sensual and sexual and erotic human beings. And they express their sexuality and beauty in the form of the art of sexual dance. This is not a new idea but something espoused in Sumeria, Babylon, the cradle of civilization. The idea dates back to the Goddess Ishtar. Thats where the original belly dancing comes from. Ishtar was the Goddess of sacred sexuality. The historical King Solomon is known to have had good regards for her. Similar ideas are held about the Hindu Goddess Shakti and in Indian texts as Kama Sutra. Similarly, Sex Goddesses exist in every major civiliztion in history. Basically, the concept of Ishtar Goddess goes by many names such as Innana, Ashtoret, Astarte, Isis, Venus, Aphrodite, etc.

I confirm and reaffirm my earlier posts in this thread. See my thread starter post in this thread and my 4 posts following that.

Sometimes when society looks down on strippers I feel sad because this shows the uneducatedness of society. I feel strippers are misunderstood people. They need the respect, support and patronage. Strippers are creative artists with an insight into the sexual and the erotic. I salute stripper women and their stripper dancing.

Thanx to all for participating in this thread.

[edit on 7-4-2009 by KromeDragon]

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reply to post by whatukno


Yes Sir. Amazing Stunning and Absolutely AWESOME!

Well if that is the case DrumsRFun thne Ballet isn't an art. I've been studying ballet for nothing because in the end I have two routes I can take with it. I learned it all just for me and it does nothing physical for me OR I learned it and take it on stage (regardles of stage size...could be the Australian Opera House or the 16th Street Theater which seats a mere 50)

All the Russian Ballet dancers out there are making a living too and they pretend to play a role for money. Are they a con as well.

Plus really don't think you're going to get flamed on this. You disagree with us. Doesn't mean either side is going to lose sleep on it.

-Kyo

reply to post by KyoZero


Its an interesting argument.
Ballet uses a pole too.
Ballet I consider an art for sure as it takes years of learning and practicing to be successful.Success in ballet takes alot of discipline.
I am just having a hard time seeing stripping as an art.
When I pay a stripper I don't see me as helping a starving artist...I see it as she has learned her craft well enough to earn my money.
I don't see them as con artists,as I said before when I am at a strip club I find the women more honest there then at a regular club.Theres not a whole lot of games being played.
I could call what they do a craft but not an art.
I do have girls I will give money to more freely then others and its not because they are good at their art as you say,its because some are genuinely nice people and are respectful.

reply to post by DrumsRfun


You raise and interesting point about the pole. The pole is an item used as a prop in dance disciplines the world over. The pole is a theatrical prop. Its not some form of deception or any thing negative.

I must agree with you that stripper girls are honest, nice and respectable persons. I have met some really impressive personalities among them. I find their philosophy on life more evolved than with most non-stripper women. Perhaps it is the level of human interaction their craft requires of them: Stripper girls and escorts tend to be realists and pragmatist, practical thinkers. Often, they can offer sincere friendship to guys, with no sexuality or intimacy attached. What I mean to say, is that strippers are not "cheap sluts" or anything negative, as the snobs of society may have us believe. Stripper girls are spiritually evolved to the point that they can just be friends with the guy if he too will respects the boundaries of such a friendship.

I have a high regard for strippers girls.



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reply to post by whatukno


Always loved that video.

She's not the best belly dancer, but she's good. A lot of not very well known arab bellydancers are damn good.

By the way Shakira is half arab.


OP, interesting what you said about babylon, I didn't know that.



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