Activist Arrested For Feeding Homeless At Lake Eola

reply to post by djzombie


lol, same here. Thanks though. Here's an announcement of the upcoming court case, but no reference to the complete resolution:

www.aclufl.org...



edit: fixed link

[edit on 23-3-2009 by elfie]

These people were gathered at a public park. Public. Meaning everyone has a right to gather and use this land. Homeless, families, fishermen, what have you.

Should it be known that if you are homeless and hungry, come here and you will be fed, the place would be overrun. So much for use by all. I certainly wouldnt want to have a family day picnic with 3000 homeless. Just not my idea of a relaxing afternoon.

You contradict yourself in nearly the same breath.

You say everyone has a right to use public land, and then go on to say that the homeless shouldn't.

Homeless have no where to be put on public land, what is your solution for that? Send them to jail?

I have a feeling that's where all this is going. Jail the poor, that's a gigantic growth in the prison industry, just what we need to get the economy moving. They get 3 square meals a day and a nice cushy cot, and you don't have to your nice sunday picnic interrupted by hoards of homeless people.

Just one question, how long before you become one of those less fortunate in the crowd, only able to survive on the good will of other men. I think you might see it differently if you're warming your hands in a barrel fire with nothing but newspaper to keep you warm at night.

This financial crisis is deepening, we haven't really seen the effects of it yet. Yeah we've the 2 trillion dollars the fed printed at their own discretion, but you haven't seen the result of that yet. Hyperinflation, the prices of goods and service going through the roof.

If you're out on the street, you are thankful for any good will that comes your way.

Although this was 2007, and no apparent updates are forthcoming...you also have to understand the group Food Not Bombs may be considered a possible "
home grown terrorist group" to the PTB, even if it is not their true agenda.

Unless the "help" in the community is sanctioned by BO thru his government mandated "volunteerism" what we do for one another on our own time will more than likely be looked at with suspicion by the sleepers in our society as well as the cops/government.

More civil disobedience of this kind is what our country needs!!!

~Holly

No. Homeless people are not seagulls. But lets be somewhat honest about this. Last fall a farmer in Idaho announced he would give away free vegtables to anyone who wanted to come dig them up. There is a thread here someplace on it. People drove from miles around for, you guessed it, free food. Honestly, if I were homeless and was told that a guy would come by every Friday with stew, I would sure as hell be there.

Yes, homeless people do have a great survival instict. Most I have had the good fortune to HIRE in the past were very hard working and dependable people.

Cute about the mailbox. Drive to your park and make an announcement. Not that hard is it?

As for soup kitchens, salvation army, churches, etc... being over run. Ive never seen that when donating food or money. What I do see are people less fortunate than I am eating, taking shelter, and getting a break from their otherwise difficult lives.

I didnt say what this guy did was wrong. To help others is divine, and we need more people to do so.

OH man this is ridiculous.

A man reaches out to another (or ten, or twenty) who need it and he gets into trouble?

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong or un-civil about making 10 great big pots of stew and feeding the homeless. What is this all coming to? What it is all leading to when you CAN NOT help your fellow man? Another poster already said it: De-sensitization of helping your fellow man.

It's coming....



- Carrot

Guys, it's Florida, I live in Florida, and I know that Florida is absolutely crap.

Is there any way for the hungry and homeless to sue the powers that be who run such a rotten society in the first place that people are allowed to go homeless and hungry?

Can those powers be sued for preventing one ordinary human being from doing the job they should be doing?

Can they be sued for letting hungry people stay hungry?

Why do we all pay taxes if that money can't be used to help our fellow citizens? I really don't see why hungry people should be charity cases.

If the government don't want them congregating in parks in the hope of getting a meal then that government ought to provide a proper place for people to go. Then they can save themselves the trouble and expense of suing people who are doing their job for them.

disgusting. gotta love the long arm of the defunk law.

the guy should just organize the food offering off of city/park land. but then again i think you have to have a permit to serve food to the public. he's screwed either way.

too bad too.

[edit on 3/23/2009 by zooplancton]

This is despicable.

I can't really say more, I'm lost for words, it's just disgusting to arrest people for trying to help others.

Passing laws against feeding homeless people suggests a desire to let them starve.

Originally posted by djzombie

You contradict yourself in nearly the same breath.

You say everyone has a right to use public land, and then go on to say that the homeless shouldn't.

Dj. I know what I stated sounded cruel and some may think I hate the homeless. I dont. I really dont.

Point I am making is the public land bit. There is an ordinance on the books to not feed homeless people in parks. Do I think the guy should have gone to jail, no. Thats senseless.

The main point I am trying to make, albeit poorly is the law is there to prevent large masses from gathering in a public area.

Try reading the article again and omit the word homeless and insert Klu Klux Klan. They are the public as well, how would you feel if this guy was bringing them crosses and 5 gallon pails of gas? Would that be okay to you?

Should the homeless have a right to use a public park, sure, do you or I, yes, does a Klansman, I would say he does. Now 50 clansmen who hear of free wood and gas and sheets gathering is a different matter all together.

Why don't we start a call in campaign?
Just drop a dime to let them know we support the man arrested and not their law!

OFFICE OF THE MAYOR AND EXECUTIVE OFFICES
Mayor Buddy Dyer (407) 246 - 2221
Chief of Staff Brie Turek (407) 246 - 2221
Special Assistant to the Mayor Joe Robinson (407) 246 - 2221
Executive Assistant to the Mayor Kathy Scanlon (407) 246 - 2221
Administrative Specialist Veronica Wilson (407) 246 - 4128
Hispanic Affairs Advisor (Interim) Alicia Ramirez (407) 254 - 4311
Press Secretary Carson Chandler (407) 246 - 2822
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Director of Audit Services and Management Support Beryl H. Davis (407) 246 - 2678
City Clerk Alana Brenner (407) 246 - 2251
Director of Communications Michele Brennan (407) 246 - 3104
Director of Constituent Services Reggie McGill (407) 246 - 2221
Director of Human Relations Shirley James (407) 246 - 2122
Director of Intergovernmental Relations Kathleen Russell (407) 246 - 3094
Director of Neighborhood and Community Affairs Marcia H. Goodwin (407) 246 - 216

I consider this a heroic act and he should be treated like a hero. I wish I could personally thank him to show the world that people are capable of helping others out, often times better than the federal government would ever consider. I think we should form a petition and demand that all charges are dropped.

Don'y feed the gull, pigeon, squirrel, rat or homeless or get a contravention. What is wrong with Orlando?
They lower homeles from people to vermine.
having a home home does'nt make you human, having compassion however help a lot.

reply to post by Azgard123


Here is the web page with more phone numbers and emails etc...

www.cityoforlando.net...

Hitler would be proud of such an evil law.
The notion that this being a public land matters NOT!
That land is paid for by the peoples' taxes, even those less fortunate still pay taxes.

This is disgusting and my email will be sent to the mayor of Orlando momentarily!



I just don't know what to think any more. I mean, what better example of the social elite considering the people below them "useless eaters?"

In the city of Disney, no less. I guess we wouldn't want any of the tourists to the Epcot Center seeing a homeless man while there. That may make them sad and less apt to spent money in their lavish facilities.
ARRRGH!

[edit on 23-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

The main point I am trying to make, albeit poorly is the law is there to prevent large masses from gathering in a public area.

Thank you for acknowledging the very reason this law is unconstitutional.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

You state the very purpose of the law is unconstitutional even in its intent.

I guess homeless aren't people anymore? They no longer have constitutional rights?

Try reading the article again and omit the word homeless and insert Klu Klux Klan. They are the public as well, how would you feel if this guy was bringing them crosses and 5 gallon pails of gas? Would that be okay to you?

Peaceably would be the qualifying word. I would imagine theres not a whole lot of hate and violence while feeding the homeless, actually probably the antithesis of that. Except of course by the police force sent to break up their "illegal activities."

Comparing the homeless to KKK just got you the "Most Heartless Bastard" award for 2009.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by djzombie]

Originally posted by die_another_day
Guys, it's Florida, I live in Florida, and I know that Florida is absolutely crap.

Agreed!

But this is old news. The case was settled in 9/2008 and Orlando lost!

Link to story

Thanks for the link, couldn't find the result anywhere.

beginning of change for the positive.




Go Mr. Montanez

I live in Melbourne Florida right next door to Orange Co. & I just e-mailed ole Mayor Buddy, even though I don't live in Orlando I am outraged at this punch in the face to Humanity. We have the same problems over here in Brevard County with our government & citizens who act like this, all while wearing WWJD(What would Jesus do) wrist bands. POWER TO THE PEOPLE BABY!!!!!