Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Those "cavemen" from Afghanistan are the hardest warriors in the world.
Rubbish. I would normally follow this up with quotes and sources but frankly i have more sympathy with the claim that American infantry are the best
in the world.
They crushed the Soviets. They're resisting the US army tooth and nail as we speak.
They didn't crush the Soviets by any means and never had the capacity to do so any more than the Vietnamese truly had the capacity to 'crush' the
US. What little casualties they managed to inflict was simply more than than both invading sides could sustain in times they did not have the capacity
to commit sufficient manpower to stage proper occupations.
Those cavemen took down the Twin Towers.
There is no actual evidence for that but beside that fact ( which you are not apparently aware of or may disagree with) i am not sure what flying
planes into building proves? I mean they were supposedly educated in American flight schools so what other skills did they have beside being willing
to die? You think your odds are far greater over a sustained period of time in fighting occupation forces which uses planes, artillery and other
methods to kill you? There are plenty regular suicide missions in any large scale conflicts so there is nothing that sets Afghans apart from the rest
They blew up countless embassies.
Even less evidence.
They've killed thousands of civilians in well planned terror attacks.
Where? When? The Taliban , Northern alliance and like Afghan factions have killed tens or hundreds of thousands of their own people in sustained
fighting over three decades so frankly the thing they are best at is killing themselves. Not exactly a qualifier as 'best' fighters in the world.
I hate them, but I don't underestimate them; and neither should you.
Why would you hate people that have never done anything to you and only fought back when your government chose to illegally invade their country on
false premises? Why would you hate anyone you do not know?
Why would i over or under estimate people i don't plan to make my enemies by killing their women and children for absolutely no legitimate reason?
Underestimating the enemy is a sure fire way to lose a war.
Not really, no. The US can only 'lose' in Afghanistan in the sense that it can not afford the political consequences of killing everyone in sight of
a bombing or attack which is a well proven tactic that makes resistance all but impossible and the reason empires existed for as long as they did.
There is no real military way in which the US can lose the war in Iraq as it has the military capacity to depopulate entire regions if the population
allows the resistance a home. The fact that it lost the political and battle for 'hearts and minds' ( the only thing you have left when you can't,
for political or moral reasons, kill everyone who picks up a rock) before it even entered that country is what will result in a situation where the US
will eventually withdraw from both countries without having reached it's claimed goals.
There is very little either resistance movements can physically do to 'win' that isn't dependent on what the US government can't or won't do
militarily and this should not be confused with a inherently powerful Afghan or Iraqi resistance.
In closing then you should not for a moment believe the nonsense that terror did not or does not work. Afghans and Iraqi's don't want to die any
more than either of us want to but since they are being presented with a situation where the gains outweighs the risks they are managing to kill just
enough American men and women in uniform to make the situation untenable for the largely unpopular American government(s).
And no, i am NOT a advocate of genocide but at least i know what 'works' and why the US won't be able to maintain it's occupations; you don't
build empires by discussion around table's but by killing everyone who dares oppose your aims.