Ufo in Arklow Ireland video

I was talking to a guy who told me he has a picture of a ufo. waiting for him to send it to me I got a message saying he was unable to upload it, typical I thought and that was that. Couple of days later he got back in contact with me, said he filmed one this time and posted in on youtube.

His comments on the video are:
'This is not a camera trick i seen this ufo outside my house the other day
I couldnt go outside because the battery on my camera was low i had to leave it plugged in and i didnt wanna miss it.'

I think its fantastic footage, so check it out. it was taken sometime between 31st of Jan and the 5th of Feb 2009





[edit on 27-2-2009 by supermass]

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interesting video isn't it ?

i thought it was a reflection from the camera light but if you watch the video very close you will see that is not the case.

not sure what it is.


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looks like a reflection of a flashlight on a glass
could be wrong but im going with that

After watching this 3 times, it seems to me as if the movement of the object and the lateral movement of the camera are pretty much in sync with each other

This the most obvious at 1:10 as the object goes from left to right across a vertical window frame and then reverses it's course.

This synchronisation points to this video being a hoax.

Anyone have any comments on CGI or physical model being hung from the roof above the window?

It looks pretty fake to me honestly

2nd line

Light reflected in glass is a very viable hypothesis here. Until that is disproved it has to stand. Occam's Razor and all that. Unfortunately assurances from your friend that it is not, however reliable he may be, won't do. He is not an independent witness.

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Nice Balloon.................good find

Can't say either way m8, thxx for posting it thought, the previous posters have no clue either (makes them feel good to say something)

Originally posted by Horza
After watching this 3 times, it seems to me as if the movement of the object and the lateral movement of the camera are pretty much in sync with each other

Aye, I agree. The camera movement in some cases is even pre-emptive of the UFO movement. I'm not really impressed.

100% fake

PLEASE, no one else post on this.

Originally posted by branty
Can't say either way m8, thxx for posting it thought, the previous posters have no clue either (makes them feel good to say something)

branty, this is a inane post which offers nothing to debate on what the object in the video is and at the same time insults the other posters on tis thread.

In fact, if you read the posts, all the other posters, except for easy now and yourself (surprisingly!), think they they do have "a clue" as to what the object is.

Why don't you go back and re-read these posts, (there are only a few of them, so it really shouldn't be hard) and then post something productive.

Edit - double post




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It's the peek-a-boo ufo! Here I am in this window, now I'm over here in this window, now back over to this one, send a flock of birds through for effect, now back over to this window, always sideways, back and forth, now another flock of birds, etc. C'mon now.

nevermind

[edit on 28-2-2009 by easynow]

looked at twice more , Im sorry my freind , there are people on this site that tell you what camera was used , time of day , wind conditions and age of person filmng , all that from your vid, THEY ARE THAT GOOD, i am not, i can't say either way , but thxx for the vid

Originally posted by branty
looked at twice more , Im sorry my freind , there are people on this site that tell you what camera was used , time of day , wind conditions and age of person filmng , all that from your vid, THEY ARE THAT GOOD, i am not, i can't say either way , but thxx for the vid

no bother, no need to apologize either, I figured this would happen with all the experts who know everything. I'm glad at least you appreciated the video for what its worth.

Originally posted by Horza

branty, this is a inane post which offers nothing to debate on what the object in the video is and at the same time insults the other posters on tis thread.

what do you think the object is ?

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So, supermass, what is your opinion on the fact that the object and the camera movement are in sync?

When you look through a lot of UFO vids on this forum and read our ATS specialists analysis, you find that you come across this method of hoaxing regularly.

The method is relatively simple.

The hoaxers film and then CGI in the object afterwards or a physical prop is used and the movement of the prop and the camera is co-ordinated whilst filming.

Look at it from a sceptic's perspective. Don't you find that suspicious?

Originally posted by Horza
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So, supermass, what is your opinion on the fact that the object and the camera movement are in sync?

Couldn't it also be argued the footage is genuine because of the synchronisation ?

I agree, there are many fakes out there and from these it appears the cgi sych method is something that takes some skill to pull off correctly, by a animation student perhaps. If this is a fake it's the best I have seen with respect to the objects behavior and the process of unifying the objects position with the windows while filtering out the camera's movement. I'd imagine that's some heavy work load animating multiple synchronisation, but maybe it isent. I'm doubtful of the cgi method. I mean no offense but the guy doesn't appear that he is a person who would spend hours on making cgi animation to fit with live footage.

If he used a physical prop it had to be very high up which may require a large armature to hold the object in place, if it was hanging it would swing, something that is not displayed in the video. I don't think it has the behaviour of a balloon either.

The contrast between the flock of birds and the object suggest a good bit of distance, more
than something just hanging or coming out from the roof by a couple of feet for example.
The birds that fly by in the video are at different distances from the window and the object. At
0.08 & 0.34 a you will note a flock pass between the object and the camera, again suggesting a real time distance between the elements if its a physical prop.

The object's reflective qualities suggest a good bit of height also, If
its a real time prop its highly reflective where as the birds are not which also
appear darker suggesting the objects position is higher than that of the birds with respect to the sun's position, or because of the birds height we cannot see the light shining on there back, hence only the shadow areas which suggests the prop is indeed a good bit higher up again. Height is also emphasized somewhat by the perspective of the window frame as the camera looks to see the birds and beyond them the object.

If we knew the species or size of the birds we could approximate the minimal size of the object with respect to the flock of birds that is furthest away from the camera, and from that possible the mechanical structure needed to manipulate that load from said distance. The looked like Starlings or something. If the object is right beside the flock of birds that are most distant from the window its got to be about twice or three times the size of a basketball, I'm just roughly guessing on that though.

I've been talking to this guy and asking him about an interview, he claims to have no knowledge of UFOs so he declined and I'm a strange to him and he's young enough, so i don't want to badger him too much about it, but i would like to in time maybe go and make studies of where he filmed this, it would be interesting to either debunk or prove it. He says he has a picture taken before this footage of a 'craft' so we'll see what that produces, he appears to have no care about the subject, just a passing curiosity. Which makes me think that if he was faking this, his whole yotube account is a scam for the aid of the video, and if it is a hoax I think a lot of time and effort has been wasted on the video because its end result doesn't weigh up against the energy and effort put into it considering most people think its a fake.


Anyway, I think its genuine and if it truly is real I also think its a fairly important piece if footage in regard to the objects movement, that peek-a-boo behaviour raises some interesting ideas.