posted on Feb, 25 2009 @ 02:27 PM
Alcohol has been legal in a lot of places for a long time, and it's not nearly as controversial as illicit substances (unless you're talking about
lowering the drinking age).
You all need to remember that there are tons of these immature, inappropriate drug-related posts that have been removed by mods before we could even
see them. If people wanted to actually debate the laws, provided decent evidence (which many did), and everyone acted responsibly then this would
never have been such an intense issue.
It's clearly not about the money, or the ads. It's about the fact that a bunch of users with IP addresses that can recognize them as living in a
country where say, marijuana, is illegal or link them to being 14 years old and doing heavy drugs, or could link any IP address to talking about
selling, buying, or distributing illegal drugs could get both YOU and the website in serious trouble. Because ATS is an intermediary and it wouldn't
be fair to the owners of this site who have worked so hard to build ATS from the ground up to have to deal with legal trouble for "enabling the
communication linking to selling or buying illegal drugs." It wouldn't be fair to those of us who don't do drugs, if the website had to be shut
down because of illegal discussion like that. It's okay to debate it seriously, but you know there are a lot of jokes (or just stupid seriousness)
made about "getting so high" or whatever. The mods are basically cleaning up a lot of garbage from this topic, so it's good that it's being
removed to keep the boards serious.
It would be just as illegal to talk about distributing alcohol to minors, or people talking about drinking alcohol at school or work, or purchasing it
underage. Those threads would be closed if they were not a mature debate over the drinking age, and if people posted basically off-topic comments
about their own personal use.
Salvia is clearly not okay. If marijuana is not okay, salvia is not okay to discuss either. Alcohol is, because the government taxes it here in
America and regulates companies that sell it, unlike salvia. Same goes for pharmaceutical medications used to treat depression or other mental
disorders, as long as they are prescribed legally by a psychiatrist or MD, and not being misused. I mean, I could say that everyone who takes more
Advil than recommended for their body weight is abusing the drug, really (even though it probably wouldn't do anything).
In my opinion, anything that you wouldn't discuss with your boss or a police officer isn't okay here on ATS. Because the internet is being monitored
(so people know if, say, a serial shooting is being planned or something). It's a risk to you and it's a risk to everyone related to the site. If
something happened, like, worst case scenario with this is that people would start talking about what they use and how they get it. They decide to
trade or sell to each other either over the site, or via communication that they were given through the site. It could lead to a drug bust and the
people involved would get in trouble, and so would the website for being a tool used to facilitate.
It's also completely immature and inappropriate to brag about how much you're messing up who you naturally are as a person. (Chemicals naturally
made by your brain should continue to be made by your brain in the same proportions). If you are prescribed any of these by a psychiatrist or doctor,
then of course it's alright. If you're prescribed marijuana by a doctor, legally, then of course it's okay. And yes it's good to make it known
whether or not it actually helps you. They were trying to give us a chance to prove that we could deal with a mature discussion of the topic, and we
failed, because people felt like they needed to be immature and brag about it, or insult people who disagreed with them in a tremendous amount.
If you've said "okay that's it, I'm off of ATS because of this." I really think you're missing out, or had your sights set on a few relatively
unimportant topics. Very few of the members here are only interested in one type of topic. So I do suggest you see what else we have to offer besides
drug discussions. There are tons of websites out there for that, and you can have an account there and on ATS, but really just don't mix up the two.