Did i hear that only 2000 websites would remain available to the general public??

I swear i heard this a couple of nights ago, most likely on the c2c show.

Can anyone verify this? I guess INTERNET II / government spook stuff is

being installed???

What makes us think ATS will remain open???

one of the great things about computers is that anyone can do anything with them.


If this does happen, Microsoft will be hit extreamly badly (woo!)

Everyone will be using OS's such as Linux instead, for some people will defently start up their own internet them selves. All the equiptment will still be there, it will just be restricted, but the restrictions will be software bassed. The only thing that may be needed are some very very very big servers, but im sure all the people who use the internet or value it wouldnt mind donating a wee bit to help get it back running.
If people just use an open OS, (made by loads of inderpendent people, free to everyone, completly modifiable, etc) the restrictions could easily be over-run.

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They can try. It will easily get overrun.

They think they have problems with cyber attacks now just wait till they try to restrict the internet World Wide.

Every government computer that is connected to a network will be crashed it will be misery for them.

well i hope they at least keep a few porn sites open

*2nd line inserted here*

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife

I'm going to count on the hackers, there are plenty out there. How sad this is. :shk:
I cant put into words how i feel about this.

reply to post by Disclosure Agent
Nope- too much spyware.

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How do you fight a cyber war when the IP's lead you around in circles.

I expect them to start hacking the sites, you'll go to a site you normally go too and there will be info on how to connect to the underground network.

Hackers, actually they are more like crackers, are very intelligent and I'm sure there are more than the government has.

It will be chaos.

I couldn't see how they could even try this.
It would send all hosting business's out of business.
Peoples websites would be useless they would go out of business.
It makes no sense really, it must be a load of bs.

They'll do it when the economy collapse and people don't care or won't even know since they have no more computer.

I always hear this: the hackers will defeat it and find a way to bypass it.

And?

The goal of the government would be reached anyway, which is, restricting acces to third-party information to the majority of the population.

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If the economy collapses, the political system will collapse.

They can try to censor the internet, but after the political system collapses, it will be chaos. It will be the point where people start enforcing the constitution for themselves and with in the communities that they live in.

It will be anarchy and chaos, if the economic system collapses.

Not sure how it is today but back in the days of telnet the Cray at OSU was the main backbone for this part. There was a huge one in St. Louis and Chicago as well. But when the OSU cray was down we used to ping out until we got a hit on a server somewhere that we had an account on. From there we would ping around until we found a path around the problem(s).

Sounds great but keep in mind that was 15-16 years ago. While things can't have changed that much, getting free accounts on different main service backbones is not just handed out anymore...even (or especially) from university origins.

But then again, the old Macs could damn near be networked with bailing wire and if not specifically looked for, remain somewhat hidden...except to other Macs. Keep in mind that would mean stepped down to 200Mhz processors and some primitive looking software.

Some of you do have a point.

Will it matter if we dont have the money to pay for Internet service?

If all this is true on top of the economy and the uncertainty, i will be looking forward to Planet X making its entrance into our atmosphere.

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If you control the infrastructure you control the flow of information.

Are people going to connect their computers with tin cans and string?

Of course, they'd like to keep the censorship on a gradual incline so as not to alarm the sheep.

Child porn is the go to excuse when they don't want a police action questioned by the courts.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Did i hear that only 2000 websites would remain available to the general public??

That would completely crash the world economy.. interconnectivity is a new backbone emerging in the world.

What you heard is sensationalist rubbish.

Sites can be more easily monitored and controlled if necessary with the new system - this will stop much illegal file sharing, piracy, child porn etc etc.

On a slightly different note - can't everyone with WiFi connections configure it so as they form an ad-hoc network, meaning that only relatively few people have to be the smarty pants and manage a connection to the 'underground' net... And the rest of people can log on so long as they are in range of 1 or 2 computers on the net... The condition will be your computer will also add to the networks range... Does that make sense? It did to me but I've only just woken up.

It could be, Rubbish, however, the information was given on a talk show by the very same people developing Internet II, now almost ready. They said the second Internet would be of a different nature, and the first one would be totally redone, cutting it down to about 2000 government approved websites.

This happens when you hear it on the radio and you have no link. I was hoping some of you heard it also or had a link of some kind.

Originally posted by Dermo

Sites can be more easily monitored and controlled if necessary with the new system - this will stop much illegal file sharing, piracy, child porn etc etc.

True! But it will prevent people from sharing "non-mainstream" information. The information will be totally controlled. That's what you have in a dictatorship.

Originally posted by thegreatobserver

True! But it will prevent people from sharing "non-mainstream" information. The information will be totally controlled. That's what you have in a dictatorship.

Getting stopped from doing illegal things are part of life.

If it happens that 'non mainstream' information is getting blocked, then we can start getting worried

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I thought we were all paying for our internet servers via our broadband subscriptions. This doesn't make any sense to me. First there is talk that they are using the net to monitor us, and now there is talk that it is going to be shut down. I don't understand where this is coming from, and where is the evidence that this is going to happen?

I can't see it happening as the internet, is an integral part of the world and links many people and places. Also, there are several million websites on the net, and I have had no problem accessing the sites that I wish to visit.

It doesn't make sense for them to close down the net in the way you describe. Many businesses depend on the internet for both sale and stock. Also, it is a place where 'Freedom of Speech' is allowed to take place.

Again, if as some have reported that we are being monitored on the internet, it wouldn't make sense to shut down to a limited few websites. The government would want to draw the protagonists out, not cut them off.

Also, how else would they be able to monitor so-called activities that may pose a problem for them. I daren't say the word, because it sends alarm bells to their computers. The word that I am looking for is 'How can they monitor terrorists, if they shut down the net?' There said it.

It just doesn't make sense.

The internet has gotten so big, and there are so many companies that provide broadband service that they would lose, and the economy would lose.

If I am wrong, then I stand to be corrected. However, it doesn't seem viable for them to perform this act. I can understand that they may secure certain of their sites that they don't want to be accessed, but to shut down the net to a few sites seems a bit ridiculous on their part.

Like many before my post have said, they would not be able to stop, or regulate the Internet to that extent. Think of it as an INTERNET rebellion. The hackers would freak, and so would the pirates. This would limit the Gamers fun, so they would be up in arms. The people like us on these forums would freak out to(Not only on ATS, but websites alike).

Not only would their be mas chaos online, but i am sure there would be protests worldwide. Since the Internet is worldwide, country by country would fall. Meaning they would start to go back to the old way, open Internet, non-regulation. The only country that would be left, were the originals who already censored the Internet. *cough* *Cough* China *cough*