Girl, 14, Arrested for Text-Messaging in School

Originally posted by johnsky
There are detention and suspension options in place for a reason.
I know she was likely being belligerent toward her teacher regarding the issue... but this school has now tarnished her record, and that doesn't go away.

All they had to do was enforce a detention or suspension, is that so hard?

Some idiots out there just don't think before reacting.

MAYBE YOUR THE IDIOT TEXTING IN SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST SINS... LIKE ... LIKE EVER!!@ AND THERES NO BIGGER CRIME!!!

Ahem... in all seriousness... I am sure there was obviously NO other crime going on anywhere in the town that was more important than using an officer(s) time to drag a girl out of school for something so ludicrous and potentially ruin her life.

YAY for tax dollars WELL SPENT!

reply to post by RFBurns


Leave it to burns, the EX cop, to come and give props to ANY article which shows excessive police presence, or abuses - while the rest of the forum gawks in horror at how outlandish the article is.

It's because of police officers with your mentality that NONE of them have any respect. The good cops are spoiled by the numerous bad apples.

DID SHE HARM A PERSON? No!
DID SHE HARM A PERSONS PROPERTY? NO!
DID SHE USE FRAUD OR MISCHEIF IN HER CONTRACTS? HELLL NO!

What LAW has she broken? None, just statutes. Senseless garbage. Police should be enforcing LAW (THE COMMON LAW) not corporate STATUTES.

[edit on 19-2-2009 by king9072]

reply to post by Djdoubt03


ha! youre watching redeye arnt you?!
+1 for you.
and yes its outrageous!

Originally posted by RFBurns

Originally posted by Ahabstar
Zero tolerance Policy in the school?

Some would say that phone txting is no different than passing notes in class. The difference is that there is no way of knowing in what context the txting was. Suspicion and speculation could come up with drug dealing, prostitution or any number of illegal activities.

All cell phones keep a record of text messages, in the outbox or sent folder in the menu. What she was sending can easily be found, and to whom.

Yeah should have cleared that point up a bit. The phone can only be easily inspected if it is the possession of someone to inspect it. Since she lied several times about having a phone and the teacher was credible enough witness claiming that she did indeed have a phone. I can see how how the police could have became involved based on suspicion...


Some of the same people faking outrage, let's be honest about how much sleep you are really going to lose over this story, would be far more upset if she was arranging a nooner with a male teacher.

reply to post by RFBurns

Wow you're Strict!
I would have lied too, it's none of their business who she was texting and most kids lie when being asked about a "wrong doing". It's not unheard of. Texting is akin to talking in class, and should all those disruptive kids be arrested? In fact talking is worse because then the entire class is being distracted, so actually it's a simple case of not paying attention and more akin to sending love notes to a cute boy or doodling all over your notebooks, or should that also be against the law?

This is ridiculous, no it's extreme. They should just be told to leave their phones in their lockers or at home. If they can't comply with these rules, then a detention or some other punishment is in order, not being sent to jail. Can't take a cell phone to school but you can drive with one and watch a movie on your DVD player and cause accidents, unreal.



[edit on 19-2-2009 by violet]

reply to post by king9072


Leave it someone who only wants to see what they want to see and leave out the obvious wrong doings..and declare no accountability for your own actions much less expect accountability for others actions.

The girl was changed with disorderly conduct. Text messaging during class is obviously against the school rules.

She will be...like all other minors, given a slap on the wrist, sent home to her obviously unconcerned parents, be given her cell phone back and not learn a damned thing about being responsible.

And people wonder why the country's kids are so far behind the rest of the world when it comes to education.

Bet that kid couldnt tell anyone where her own home town is on a map, much less pinpoint the street she lives on or even point out her state on the map either. Oh...she will have to text message someone for the tiny google earth map for that instead of recalling it from the lesson she missed out on because she was text messaging in class.


Cheers!!!!

I take it this school doesn't believe in detention?

Frankly, I'm surprised she wasn't tased and hog-tied.

The authorities must be slackin'...

Okay, I just wrote a long response to this thread that got lost in the ether. But I think the most important point I made was:

I wonder if school authorities were afraid of accusations of sexual harassment if they had a couple female teachers/staffers take her into a private room and ask her to remove her clothing to prove that she didn't have a cell phone on her person.

Because I think that's very likely how the situation would have been handled when I was in school (not that we had cell phones back then). But I know that teachers now have to be much more careful about their interactions with students.

Also, I mentioned that in returning to college I have been horrified at how extensive the practice of texting during classes is, and also how common it is to use cell phones to cheat during tests. Teachers have very good reason to come down hard on cell phone use.

reply to post by RFBurns


get a life, when did having something other than an offensive weapon in class require the cops to be involved. schools are clown shoes, teachers are half wits who have been institutionalised into the system, i am considering homeschooling my children, more and more every day

This is simply the dark face of capitalism showing itself.

If you give people money for action x, then they will find a way so that action x seems to happen on a much more regular basis.

I'm just waiting for the headlines "Child arrested and charged for breathing", "Mother jailed for premature birth" the more were conditioned into accepting that we are not allowed to do a, b, c (even texting in class - which shouldnt be a police (state) matter), and the rest, then the more were gonna see headlines of this severe nature, it was only the other week a girl was arrested and charged (and locked up?) for a first offence of graffiti, when i was alot younger stupidly enough id done some criminal damage had a fight with the coppers n all i got was a slapped wrist and a fine, and it wasnt the first time id done it either.

My how times have changed.

Its beyond a joke, i make the most of the freedoms i have while i have them as i know they wont last the duration of my life time.

Well this is a perfect example of what's gone wrong with society. No discipline. Kids today have it way too easy. If this girl went to the same school I went to and back answered a teacher, she would of had her head knocked off her shoulders and then sent to the headmasters office where she would of got the dreaded cane. (Ouch) She would then be suspended and sent home to her parents, where she would of received further discipline.

Thanks to government intervention, children can no longer be disciplined. Figuratively speaking, is it any wonder that they get away with murder. Bring back the cane I say. I only ever got the cane once, but it was enough to keep me on the straight and narrow. In my time we wouldn't dare back answer an adult. How times have changed.




[edit on 19-2-2009 by kindred]

As I do not know the entire story, I am going to assume this child did something other than just texting in class to warrant having the police called to intervene. It is not so uncommon these days for children to threaten teachers, I know that at certain schools teachers are escorted to their cars at the end of the school days.

That being said, if cell phones are such a problem that they are leading to incidents where the police are being involved and arresting children, why don't the teachers unions get off their collective behinds and petition the FCC to change the laws and start putting cell phone jammers in the schools?

TheWelder

*edit for spelling*

[edit on 19-2-2009 by TheWelder]

This is so f'in pathetic. Since when is a cell phone a dangerous instrument justifying strip searches and interrogations? Is the cell phone the new AK-47?

As the article states, this is the same state that had a teacher suspended for a photo of herself pointing a gun!! OH NO! A PICTURE!!

Maybe they will start arresting kids for using the wrong writing implement or coloring outside of the lines.

[edit on 19-2-2009 by skoalman88]

The girl got arrested for being a jerk.If you make it tough then they will as well.She stuffed the phone down her pants and gave them false numbers when they wanted to call her parents.
Its insane but thats how it goes.
Whats next???The electric chair for using the wrong pencil??
Its a pretty crappy teacher that has to call the cops on a kid.
Bad skills on the teachers part.

[edit on 19-2-2009 by DrumsRfun]

"A high school student in New Berlin, just west of Wauwatosa, was charged earlier this month with blackmailing other male students into having sex with him after convincing them to send him nude photos of themselves via Facebook — where he had pretended to be a number of attractive female classmates."

This is most likely the reason for the student being dealt with by law enforcement. In alot of the schools in our area, and others, there is a huge issue with inschool behaviour. Things that children get away with now is ridiculous, and the teachers are powerless because parents bring lawyers into the picture. So instead of suffering continuous law suites, a school is simply going to find a mediator for troublesome students. This isn't a police state situation. This is most likely a troubled child whos causing more problems than shes worth. I know hundreds of youths who need to get pulled into line. Sure I'm all for freedoms, but children aren't meant to have "freedoms" because they barely comprehend the concept of responsibility. For christ sake, most adults dont even know the meaning of the word. The thing is though, that there have been so many problems in regards to cyber harassment that cell phones arent allowed in alot of schools. When you break the rules repeatedly, and the school isnt allowed to discipline you, they get the police involved.

As a personal note. I am currently attending NAIT here in Alberta. Its a technical college. Its pretty small time compared to some of the universities and colleges out there. Its gotten to the point, that if you're caught with a cell phone, you're gone. No suspension, no second chances, just GONE. As in terminated. With us its a little more serious, its time and money wasted. The reason behind this was simple. Phones were producing to many interuptions in the classroom. People were using them to cheat on exams, etc. Now if you are caught with a phone on the premises your gone. Its a big deal. Now imagine a grown adult not taking it seriously and acting like a punk to the management at this school. Refusing to leave on the basis of this punishment. The school would involve law enforcement, and it has happened. Is it unlawful? No. When we enter that school we go there under a stipulation that we will follow rules. In the old days they would just kick your ass, but now, the laws are to extreme for physical applications of force. So the police mediate, and when you throw a tantrum, you spend time in the tank.

Anyways, have a good one.

Wally

[edit on 19-2-2009 by newage2012]

She should not have been arrested but in detention. However, why does a person need to next while in class. I am sure that it could have waited until recess but people just can't seem to stop texting these days as if it was a matter of life or death. In this case however I am sure she must have said something to the teacher. Its happening much too often these days and the child in this case just was a bit bratty. Hopefully, but highly doubtfull, that she has learned something from this.

In my opinion the girl should have received a detention not have the police called on her...She is a Teenager...They get into things...I know I did when I was young...She is a child...She did not threaten or hurt anyone...

Here is a link from the Smoking Gun...

www.thesmokinggun.com...

Scroll down to the bottom of the first page then go to page 4 of the police complaint form...Top of the page states...

The phone belonged to the girls father...She had sent a text to her DAD...

If I had the ability to home school my son I would...

I despise the public school system period...and their crappy education with their never ending list of rules that they add to EVERY YEAR...
Our kids no longer even have the right to make mistakes or be children any more...

I am sick that America has become a communist country run by Nazis...

The only right we are going to have left very soon will be the right to Remain Silent...

I for one am fed up to my eyebrows with all of it...

I wonder every day when the American people will have had ENOUGH...

I just hope it is before we are all dead or in detention camps...

Yes...this is not a major thing with the girl...But... there are always a few that no matter what they say or do they say...Wellllll thats ok...They might have deserved it...uhhh...you people aggravate me...

I'm curious as to what is on page 5?
Anyone else?

TheWelder