Originally posted by SailorinAZ
I live in the American South West. I would like to prepare for when the SHTF. I have a Wife, 2 little kids, and a dog. I have some survival knowledge
and have spent quite a bit of time outdoors. I don’t want to give out to much information about myself but I have also been very well trained in the
use of firearms and some non-lethal weapons. I have a 4X4 and know of a place that is very secluded where there is water flowing year round. I know of
three separate routes to reach this location, one being completely off road. Winter temps in this location drop below freezing and it does ice
My questions are:
What is the most likely SHTF situation to occur within in the next decade?
Economic collapse, Genetically Modified food problems, martial law,
and shift to North American Union and the Amero.
If these above happen which is very likely then we might also
see civil war here in the US, and another country may take
advantage of that situation.
Also war between Israel and one of its neighbors is also a possibility,
and it is likely we would get involved and it could lead to WW3.
What can I do to best prepare based on where I live, having a family, and this most likely situation?
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
A good bugout bag like one other poster mentioned is essential,
the contents vary from person to person.
Cpl of weird items I got is a bug suit that is camo for my area,
and a gas mask.
If there are dead the bug will be feeding on them and then land on you.
Even after the initial 14 days after a nuke, the alpha and beta
particles are harmful to breath for 28 years.
Not a pleasant proposal.
How likely is it your bugout location will be swamped by tons of
other ppl that know of the spot ?
If it is too appealing and well known it will likely have some other
ppl showing up and some of them may not be nice once the food
Try to find a spot that looks like it gets ZERO visitors, and has
a water source nearby that is within reason, or the water table
is close to the surface there.
If you have a fire the smoke will be seen from the distance,
and you will get "visitors".
To keep from freezing to death and draw no attention consider
making a shelter based on one of Mike Oehler underground
home designs, google him he comes right up.
For protein consder Giant Golden amaranth seeds, it is one of the
few complete plant proteins and grows like a weed,
almost a pound of seed per plant, and sprouting the seeds
gets you ten times the food value in just a few days.
In fact palmer's variety of Amaranth is almost immune to round up.
Check out places like Survival Blog, get a copy of the SAS survival
handbook, and read it a few times.
Also try to put your place under evergreen foliage if you can,
it provides cover year round.
The basics are Shelter, Water, Food, Defense.
Use stainless steel, it will keep items from rusting.
Look for long term permanent solutions like herbal medicine, etc etc.
Try to think total self reliance and stealth.
Do not park your 4x4 close to the retreat and try to walk
different paths in and get to know all th nearby terrain like
it was the back of your hand.
Check out KI4U.com for concerns with fallout.
You do not have to buy expensive gear all the time, most things
can be done very affordably.
You might consider not getting a semi-auto weapon as the
assault ban is likely coming back soon worse than it was in the past.
I use pump and bolt action weapons.
Get 50 caliber ammo cans from surplus places, and check the
rubber seal is good and not rock hard, SAW ammo cans work too.
Toss in some dessicant and it will keep your ammo good a long time.
Get some food grade water barrels from a nearby mill or other
large water storage cistern method, etc etc.
If you berm earth around it, it will take a lot longer to freeze or
not at all if you berm enough earth around it.
If you need to cook consider a Solar Oven in lieu of fire, fire
can attract unwanted attention and can catch pine needles on fire
with some cinders popping and shooting out of your campfire.
Trapping game is illegal for a reason, it works too well.
Get some snare wire for small game, and learn to make the
easy traps in the SAS survival handbook.
Use special forces caching techniques for long shelf life food, and
use dry ice to push the air out of it, and store underground for
longer shelf life. Also cache any and all items you might need,
and do not put all your cache in one spot and try to make them
spots that are not well viewed 360 degrees and not travelled at all.
Survival Acres has good shelf life info on their website, google them.
Get a good pack of heirloom seeds of what foods you like.
Get or make a few good weapons that do not require you to
use your ammo for ur rifles, like a bow or crossbow.
Also if you can try to get one or a few other families you trust
with your life to go with you.
Ppl get sick, ppl get hurt, standing watch 24 x 7 x 365 with one
family tends to put morale in the toilet.
Evaluate members and do not try to push them into things
they cannot or will not do, then plan accordingly.
Practice with your weapons and with your survival skills,
plan a camping or hunting trip.
Get a few handcrank flashlights and emergency band radios.
Thick trash bags make great rain ponchos and layers of them
stuffed with leaves will keep you warm.
Rose hips are a good source of vitamin C, and look for other
items for other vitamins via google and elsehwere.
Get a list of edibl plants in N. America, but be very careful with
it some good and bad look very much alike.
Read all the info you can, and have hardcopy of vital info stored
in dbl ziplock bag and stuffed in one of those 50 caliber ammo cans.
Good Luck !
[edit on 18-2-2009 by Ex_MislTech]
[edit on 18-2-2009 by Ex_MislTech]