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Later this year, the first peer-reviewed report on the geostratigraphy of the Topper site in South Carolina will be published in the Journal of Archaeological Science.
Topper clearly has a fabulous Clovis site; and it also may have a preclovis site, dated about 15,000 years ago. Excavations are still ongoing, and there certainly may be more to report and eventually I and the other skeptics may be proved wrong about the +50,000 year occupation. That would definitely be exciting, and lead to a complete cockup of what we understand today about the human population of the world.
Source (we can't all be using pay sites, Hans!)
Finding evidence of human habitation at the Yana site "makes it plausible that the first peopling of the Americas occurred prior to the last glacial maximum," Daniel Mann of the University of Alaska, Fairbanks, said in Science. The last glacial maximum was 20,000 to 25,000 years ago.
Grayson and others, however, said more evidence is needed before it becomes widely accepted that it was people from the Yana site who migrated to the New World.
The major problem, said Grayson, is that archaeological evidence for human dwellings in Siberia is still very sparse. Also, there is a gap of thousands of years between the 30,000-year-old Yana site and other sites in Asia and the Americas.
Don't forget I'm an interested amateur, if anything is glaringly idiotic
Originally posted by Hanslune
Don't forget I'm an interested amateur, if anything is glaringly idiotic
Howdy K
So am I, the only professional anthropologist we have here is Bryd. I trained as an Archaeologist (Mayanist) and worked briefly in another area (Bronze age middle east- notably Cyprus) that capacity but moved to another area of interest while remaining an avid amateur in the field to this day.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Hanslune
I only have a couple of points that fall into line with the opinion of the report you linked. The 50, 000 year seems excessive and would raise serious problems about settlers spreading from Eastern Russia. Are there any sites in Alaska or Eastern Russia that pre-date 50, 000 years?
Originally posted by coredrill
Lucky You and Lucky Byrd....
I am also an amateur. i am just an engineer.
I am basically interested in History, Ancient Civilizations.....
I wish......
Although we can rule out a significant migration from Europe at that time (20,000 years ago), there might have been a smaller one from Europe some 50,000 years ago.
Busy indeed, several hours of paperwork is still waiting to be done I'm glad that new threads are few and far between on the A&LC section. Threads like this everyday would leave me wiser but poorer. Still glad you posted it though. Lots of information
Originally posted by Hanslune
Ah you have been busy, yep you could get a few separate threads out of that.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
I found an early article about Goodyear and the Topper dig. It's a scan on pdf so I can't paste it here. Nevertheless, Goodyear remarks that the chert quarries near Topper were exploited by the Clovis to the extent that similar chert points were found a 100 miles away. Is it reasonable to speculate that the earlier people would be drawn to same area for those same resources?