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posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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Ok, you lost the election.

But your response to what has happened thus far with the Obama Administration ranks somewhere below "pathetic" and is dangerously close to "puerile."

You are still soliciting people to donate to the RNC under the rubric that you were and are a better choice. Your standard-bearer, McCain, made a fool of himself in the Senate the other day. And you still maintain that "tax cuts" are the fix for all that ails us.

If you want any chance of ever having a majority in Congress again, say much less The White House, you need to cut the crap and examine why you lost - then change it.

Here's the facts folks:

* The Republican Party not only sat idly by while various banksters and their pals looted the public and the Treasury, they were actively complicit in allowing it. Paulson came to a republican Congress and SEC to ask for leverage limit removal in 2004, remember?
* These frauds and scams, the root of the problems in our economy, were not born overnight. The CRA was not a major part of this. Not by any stretch of the imagination. The root of this credit bubble was the willful and deliberate destruction of oversight and regulation that would have prevented it from happening. Specifically, the evisceration of reserve requirements via sweeps and other games and the evisceration of leverage limits via off-balance-sheet nonsense, "deregulation" of the banking and Wall Street investment houses and willful blindness to blatant corrupt and fraudulent practices. Both political parties were evenly involved in the creation of this mess.
* The reason this mess got out of hand was excessive leverage. For the last 20 years the banksters and their cronies (including a whole bunch of Republicans) have dismantled regulations capping leverage at sane ratios. The only way to prevent this from happening again is to reinstate those limits.




market-ticker.denninger.net...

Read the whole piece at the link above. I think this country is looking for real leadership. We will continue to see the market tank until someone steps up and bust the people who have perpetrated and are perpetrating to this minute fraud, theft, and extortion. Its painfully obvious the Obama administration is not going to prosecute these thugs.

Simple question why should I invest MY money in a stock market where frauds and thieves can rule unimpeded?

Answer I shouldnt and neither should anyone else.




posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 07:45 PM
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Yes Republicans lost the election, and the country has gone to hell since the Democrats took over Congress in 2006.

John McCain, our standard bearer? Give me a break, we lost because of John McCain...true Conservatives were very wary of this guy, whose claim to political fame is pandering to Democrats.

Democrats love to raise taxes on things they believe are harmful...tobacco, alcohol, and firearms are great examples. They know that if you raise taxes on something is discourages its use. By using that example the opposite of raising taxes is lowering them, this encourages the activity, which is making more money, because you actually get to keep more of it. Lowering taxes works everytime it is tried.

I actually laughed out loud at Lord Obama's address the other day when he said "There are no earmarks in this bill." Just because Democrats can openly include pork into THEIR bill without having to hide it like they did in the past, doesn't mean it is not an earmark. 30 million dollars to protect a freaking mouse in Pelosi's district is definately an earmark, same thing with millions of dollars for a Mob Museum in Dingy Harry Reid's state.

Lowering taxes has never been a problem. Wasteful spending is always a problem, whether it is in your household, your business, or your government.



posted on Feb, 12 2009 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Yes Republicans lost the election, and the country has gone to hell since the Democrats took over Congress in 2006.


BS. The country was already in hell well before the mess started. With over $200 million being spent on Iraq a day, deregulation in wall street and the Bush tax cuts that have come to bite us in the ass, the vast majority of this mess lies squarly on the republicans.

Considering that the majority of the proposals the democrat congress came up with was either blocked by the president or didnt recieve enough cooperation by the republicans, I really dont see how this mess is the fault of the democrats. Id accept part blame, but the vast majority are the republicans. No need to cover their asses on this mess.


John McCain, our standard bearer? Give me a break, we lost because of John McCain...true Conservatives were very wary of this guy, whose claim to political fame is pandering to Democrats.


Then would you agree that the vast majority of your fellow republican supporters are not real conservatives and are hypocritical? Because they voted him in as the nominee, the majority did.

Why dont you join the libertarian party? Its the only true conservative party I know of.


Lowering taxes works everytime it is tried.


Tax cuts from the mouths of conservatives mean we cut your income taxes now, in return you pay more for other taxes and we invest less in america. For every investment in america, be in infrastructure or projects to create jobs, we get $1.65 in return. Tax cuts are something we have to pay back years later, and I learned that from the Reagan administration.

Its a rightwing ploy, and it doesnt take alot to figure out that the implementation of a "tax cut" only solution in a recession of this magnitute doesnt solve a thing, infact it makes it worse. Folks are going to spend their tax cuts on paying off debt, that doesnt stimulate the economy. Coporate tax cuts to employers will not get them to hire more people because tax cuts cannot account for the cost of maintaining new employees.

Wasteful spending? why is it then that under every republican administration government spending always wounds up being either comparable to that of the Democrats or more. The Bush administration spent more and grew government more than any other in past. Towards the end of Reagan administration the spending on the military and other government services increased beyond those of Carter.

The "small government tax cuts less spending" talk from republicans doesnt hold up in history.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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As a note on taxes-

If you love your country, INVEST IN IT!

If you want your country to be poor, to have bad streets, to generally fail.... call for tax cuts!



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by sadisticwoman
As a note on taxes-

If you love your country, INVEST IN IT!

If you want your country to be poor, to have bad streets, to generally fail.... call for tax cuts!


Do you pay extra taxes? You can send in more than you owe, or send money if you don't owe any.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 01:05 AM
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reply to post by stevegmu
 


I didn't know that, thanks for telling me!



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 01:08 AM
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We're in this mess because Democrats cheat on their taxes.

Does anyone know why the dow is 2000 points since election day?



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 01:30 AM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Yes Republicans lost the election, and the country has gone to hell since the Democrats took over Congress in 2006.

John McCain, our standard bearer? Give me a break, we lost because of John McCain...true Conservatives were very wary of this guy, whose claim to political fame is pandering to Democrats.

Democrats love to raise taxes on things they believe are harmful...tobacco, alcohol, and firearms are great examples. They know that if you raise taxes on something is discourages its use. By using that example the opposite of raising taxes is lowering them, this encourages the activity, which is making more money, because you actually get to keep more of it. Lowering taxes works everytime it is tried.

I actually laughed out loud at Lord Obama's address the other day when he said "There are no earmarks in this bill." Just because Democrats can openly include pork into THEIR bill without having to hide it like they did in the past, doesn't mean it is not an earmark. 30 million dollars to protect a freaking mouse in Pelosi's district is definately an earmark, same thing with millions of dollars for a Mob Museum in Dingy Harry Reid's state.

Lowering taxes has never been a problem. Wasteful spending is always a problem, whether it is in your household, your business, or your government.


OH get over it you PEACAN... The country is in the pot due to GOP spending and give aways.

Your imagination can't change the truth.
YER trillion dollar war - FISCALY CONSERVATIVE -


Your boy sucked - couldnt have a free market so BUSH looked the other way.

HEY but at least the top % doubled thier money in eight years...

GOP = PARTY 1st

UNPATRIOTIC lot you are, you in particular RR.

PALIN,RUSH and JOE THE P = losers



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
We're in this mess because Democrats cheat on their taxes.

Does anyone know why the dow is 2000 points since election day?


I do

THE GOP spent like crazy - started two wars and resided over the largest corporate giveaway in history.



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 01:42 AM
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You know, I was listening to Rush the other day as I sometimes do when I need to get aggravated at something and he was going off on how the Democrats were going to cut their own throats with incompetence and when they did the Republicans would rise up to power again. He further foamed at the mouth about how the Republicans would put it to the Democrats and pass legislation to bring every one of them to their knees. I do not remember the exact words, but it was classic Rush and anyone who listens to the talent on loan from Gaaaaawddd knows how he is.

Anyone who wants REAL CHANGE will NEVER vote for a Republican or Democrat for any position. State or Federal, it does not matter. A vote for Democrats or Republicans is a vote for self serving thieves, sodomites, and whore mongers. Every Democrat and Republican needs to be rooted out.

AMERICA NEEDS CITIZEN STATESMEN INSTEAD OF PROFESSIONAL POLITICIANS. Having professional politicians living off the public dole while stuffing their offshore accounts with the tainted offerings of lobbyists and ignoring the will of the constituency is not good for America.

[edit on 2-13-2009 by groingrinder]



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 01:43 AM
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I stopped reading when it said "Here are the facts" and then goes on to say Henry Paulson was Secretary of the Treasury in 2004. Who knows what else was made up off the top of that guys head... Truth is he wasn't appointed until June 2006. As far as the tax cuts? Take it from these Obama supporters, they can spend it better than the gubment.

[edit on 13-2-2009 by beaverg]



posted on Feb, 13 2009 @ 01:59 AM
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TAXES DO NOT FUND THE GOVERNMENT

The above article is a real eye opener. I get madder every time I read it.

90 percent of taxes are paid by folks making less than $35,000.00

Two thirds of income taxes are wasted or not collected.

All individual income tax revenues are gone before any money is spent on Government services.



posted on Feb, 14 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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I agree Bush and the Republicans spent like drunken sailors. They should have lost Congress two years ago. However that was TWO YEARS AGO!!! The Democrats paid the last two years of Bush's Wars, awe sorry to remind everyone that Demo-socialist hands are just as bloody. And let no one forget all but four or five Democrats voted for the War with Iraq and voted for the first two years of that war until Bush started to lose his popularity. And then when the demo-socialist smelt blood, then and only then did it become, Bush lied people died. But just like every Socialist on this planet, they have to lie because the truth is their enemy.

I think it is freaken hilarious that President Obama had to bring out societal retards to get his bill passed. "I have worked at McDonalds for four and a half years and I want you to get me more", and just like the good Muppet crowd Socialist idiots are… they cheered! And then some moron on another website said people who make 35K or less pay 90% of the taxes in this country. I spit milk out of my nose when I read that blatant lie. Who ever wrote that absolute nonsense is a liar and ought to be ashamed. But knowing socialist like I do they will continue to spread that same nonsense over and over again, knowing full well, liberals are the most politically uneducated voters in the world. But the good news is, even if they say it enough times and socialist liberals believe it and this lie makes national attention, then this lie will most assuredly explode in those lying socialist faces. Other then I hate everything and I mean everything about socialism, I have nothing but love for those who are afflicted with that sickness.

Besides after this latest round, I would be willing to bet Republicans will take back control of Congress next election cycle and will be able to filibuster any bill that resembles the BS that was just passed yesterday. This last robbery of the Treasury by Socialist Liberals and Obama is going to come back and bite them in the ass, just like all that spending bit the Republicans. To say people are pissed would be the biggest understatement of this century. I would smile if it wasn’t so damn sad, you think we won't learn why this bill was passed in less then twenty four hours? And to think when this robbery package kicks in and McDonalds Boy doesn't get a better job... or even better if he does... the anti-Constitutional Socialist Democrats will have hell to pay. Over 700 billion and Obama and his socialist controlled Congress are now going to come to the nation with yet another bailout for mortgages, and more for auto makers even though over 350billion is now officially pork spending. You think we Conservative Capitalists and Moderate Capitalists are just going to sit on our hands and take this? You will be in for a rude awaking, that’s fodamnshow!

Once again, nothing but love... But will love it even more when this socialist train wreck comes to a crashing halt!





[edit on 14-2-2009 by littlebunny]



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