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but for one to be stood infront of you asking "you got a light mate".. i would probbly pass out with the shock lol..
Yeah, I hear ya! Heaps of evidence SUGGSTING stuff, and nothing showing Aliens.
Originally posted by nasacarl
Hello all.
With all the evidence to suggest that Aliens and UFOs are indeed real
Sorry, but I think we are beautiful. A great expression of the order of the universe via phi. Golden Ratio anyone?
Doesn't it break your heart a little to know that we are weird looking ?
Not afraid. I am intrigued by the idea of greys and those that express a belief in them. I also know man people have individual experiences that they attribute "greys" as the source and/or cause of those experiences. I find this intriguing and facinating too.
Come on people.... all of us can admit we are afraid of The Greys. Maybe they are afraid of us a little , who knows.
Once again, I personally have never acted with shock or horror at any greys, stories of greys, or personal testimonies of greys. So I cannot agree with your statement that we are programmed to react this way. Perhaps it would be fairer to ATS members that you not project your own feelings and beliefs onto others.
Sure there's reports of human looking aliens , but the difference between looks is astoundingly different. If we were all meant to get along in this wonderful universe , its weird how we are programed to react in horror/shock looking at a Grey alien.
Perhaps, I guess I can only imagine.
The transition from a civilization not knowing who they are then suddenly interacting or kicking a football with them must be a huge and wondrous part in history.
Maybe once you have communications or a conversation with them you settle down and realize they are just 'human' and have feelings too.
Yes, I would Imagine that. In fact, I imagine anything breaking into or invading the sanctuary of my own home, especially a bedroom, would arouse levels of shock, fear and outrage. But given that these beings are apparently covertly studying, visiting us, I should imagine that if they wanted to have a proper conversation by introducing themselves and approaching individuals in a more neutral, calm setting would appear as a more logical option for highly intelligent alien species. So given this line of logic, I sleep ok, but thats just me.
But if a Grey suddenly appeared in my room and started talking to me i would be in shock it would scare me to death. Other beings would probably be even more scary. I personally think the Greys are probably the easiest Aliens to look at... Imagine a half bird , half snake creature. Now that would freak you out.
Yes I can. Many people actually offer personal testimony as such, that this is indeed happening.
Can anyone imagine a world where we interact with each other on a daily basis?
I guess so, but I guess we could reverse that and say that there will always be those prone to fantasy about aliens and what maybe, that will offer asinine cliches about those that are Non-believers or haters of a as yet to transpire fantasy scenario.
There is always going to be non-believers and religious haters even if they saw an Alien some trouble would start.
Me too, but not for the same reasons you have.
Think about Earth now with all our crazy views and war , I cant help but feel that full disclosure/interaction is a LONG way away.
I will agree with you up to this point....and let you continue....
They are obviously not here
Yes, I do.
to hurt us because they would of done so already but even still they are so different it scares us. Anyone have any thoughts about any of this ?
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Originally posted by nasacarl
reply to post by atlasastro
Your whole response was just mocking me , thanks for wasting my time.
Im looking things from a different perspective i don't think we are weird looking at all i meant they would probably find us weird. You obviously are keen on the subject so why not give me a serious response.
Im talking about the average person not me personally i could deal with that fact no problem i am very open minded.
[edit on 11-2-2009 by nasacarl]
I answered with honesty. I fail to see the mockery in my words and my words are only replies to yours. Read my words without emotion. You accuse me of wasting your time, yet you replied to my post, I believe that you are responsible for your own time, as I certainly have no agency over any intervals of said time as it relates to you.
Originally posted by nasacarl
reply to post by atlasastro
Your whole response was just mocking me , thanks for wasting my time.
And I answer from a different perspective. My replies are serious. It is the manner in which you interpret these and your inferences that are inspired by such that needs to be re-examined. Perhaps you could question my answers in a more constructive manner by opening a dialogue, rather than accuse me of mockery, time wasting and indifference. I am keen on the subject, the fact that you discern this yet relegate my answers as debasing is amusing. Perhaps you could re-read my original reply with that realisation in mind, a realisation that I am deeply interested in the topic.
Im looking things from a different perspective i don't think we are weird looking at all i meant they would probably find us weird. You obviously are keen on the subject so why not give me a serious response.
Honestly, how can I conclude that you have an open mind when you have not addressed any of my responses to your OP, yet make the accusations you do.
Im talking about the average person not me personally i could deal with that fact no problem i am very open minded.
This is simply not true. It is highly situational and varies to extremes within many, many, many variations of interactions. To say in general we only approach others warily is simple untrue. Well at least for me and most of the people I know.
Originally posted by jimmyx
when humans come upon other humans, they are wary at first, before they get to know them.
This too is untrue. If you were to poll members here I think you will find those that would be happy, excited, amazed, overjoyed that contact with aliens was made, whilst you would also find the other end of the spectrum, that being fear, suspicion and extreme caution
.this obviously would be magnified with alien beings.
Are you suggesting that we are being conditioned to accept aliens. Just because there is popular culture and an increasing awareness of the concept does not necessarily signify that we are being educated. Can I not apply that to all other supernatural content or information out there in venues also and apply that same logic of its impending disclosure.
this is why so many entertainment venues are displaying contact. people have to become comfortable with something that has been hidden from them for so long, and that is so totally bizarre compared to their everyday lives.
Yes, I agree. But I also think that when Imagine these scenarios, that we understand how we got to that process in the first place. Why do we believe that these scenarios are indeed relatively realistic or within a high range of probability. Why are we creating a hypothesis for action with these aliens that will be based on a perception born from imagining rather than actually knowing?
but the "grand entrance" with full disclosure certainly would go along way toward tolerance and acceptance. i can imagine if the reverse was true, we humans would have to be cautious about approaching the beings inhabiting a different world. at first we would be considered evil and dangerous and have to make contact with people that we could talk to, that would not try and hurt us, and work toward some type of gradual acceptance.
Yes, I would Imagine that. In fact, I imagine anything breaking into or invading the sanctuary of my own home, especially a bedroom, would arouse levels of shock, fear and outrage. But given that these beings are apparently covertly studying, visiting us, I should imagine that if they wanted to have a proper conversation by introducing themselves and approaching individuals in a more neutral, calm setting would appear as a more logical option for highly intelligent alien species. So given this line of logic, I sleep ok, but thats just me.
Me too, but not for the same reasons you have.
I will agree with you up to this point....and let you continue....
Of course, if i was in the bush it would be startling I guess, especially at night. There are reports, most of them personal testimonies, or ones that are hoaxes or just unprovable. This is what dissapoints me about the topic, we have relegated an apparently superior race to a boogy man that may creep into our bedrooms, or lurks in the bushes.
What if you saw a grey walking down the bush or something ? Wouldn't you be a little weary ? The reports are often not as friendly as sitting down having a chat with a coffee thats the only reason i bring that up , maybe some people do i have no proof.
I believe that currently the beliefs in aliens is a religion. A growing phenomena that will eventually reach a cultural peak that will see it become an accepted norm. I believe this is our society redefining and updating older, more traditional beliefs and gods into a comfortable middle ground that is compatible with the increasingly dominant influences of science and technology. Science and technology are responsible for openning up our acceptance of the possibility of alien life existing.
Well , do tell ? I want you to give me your honest opinions about the
subject , so don't be afraid to offend.
Did you click the link in my first reply.
Well how do you explain all the crashes sightings , reports and abduction cases ?
Just quickly a few tidbits that I look at in greater depth in the link. I believe UFO and ET should be treated seperately, here is why. UFO should not automatically result in a conclusion that Aliens exist. In nearly all abduction cases, there is no corresponding reports of UFO sightings. Incidence of abductions occuring is grossly exaggerated and the method used to make these estimations of abductions( that are estimated to be in millions) is fraudulent and misleading. These estimations have been heavily used as evidence within the field and have led many to form beliefs, and support beliefs.