U.S. Army vs. U.S. Marine Corps

hey hey calm
marines are great amry are great that simple

i'm joining the marines

Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
I hate to make it a U.S. vs. U.S. scenario, but there have always been glaring differences between the U.S. Army's method of warfare as opposed to the U.S. Marine Corps.

As someone who has served in the Airborne/Air Assault, I would say by and large Marines are more disciplined. Their BASIC training is longer and more intense. But then again, Airborne/Air Assault, Ranger and Special Forces training is no joke, either. They posess some very disciplined soldiers of their own,

The average Marine could probly take out your average G.I. But average is the key word.

It's kind of futile to compare, though, as they have different missions. But I give the Marines props. The Army gets more money and better equipment.

Originally posted by cloud
i'm joining the marines

well good luck, i hope you enjoy your new life

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Originally posted by cloud
i'm joining the marines


Good luck. I hope your good at playing the head game. You better get into shape before you go, too. They'll work yo ayse off.

[Edited on 19-09-2003 by EastCoastKid]

Originally posted by cloud
i'm joining the marines

what u joing as a squadie or u gona specialise?

I'm becoming a Marine in about four years!

really what u gona go for squadie or specilist

i'ma thinking 'bout doin' me some infantry work...or maybe just supply. i don't know quite yet.

kool
i was thinking about joing RMC but duno now

Go for it Devilwasp. Royal Marines are one of the best units in the world, and being RN, you'll be top of the RN>Army>RAF heirarchy.

Ok, I'm not going to read this whole thread, I just read the first few posts, but I didn't see it.

In an all out fight, I'd take the MEU, just because of what they are trained to do, which is different from what the Army is trained to do.

Marines are 'expeditionary' because they are the first in. They are extremely violent. We call them 'dipsticks' sometimes because when you 'dip' them into an area, you can tell how many companies of Army you need to send in depending on the number of Marine casualties.

Marines don't even bother with Geneva conventions... Oh, what, no double-taps after I cross the objective? Screw that, I'm a Marine. I can barely feed myself, let alone a POW... Kill 'em all.

Army is designed for more sustained operations. Slower, longer, and with regular supply (optimally). Rangers are a different story. They train for unsustained operations. They go in, secure an airfield, and wait for the MPs to set up a perimeter security, then they move to the rear to refit for the next mission. I'd still take a company of good Marines over a Ranger company, because if that were actually to happen, you know the Rangers would get cocky, stroke their own egos, and eventually succumb to the Marines, who know nothing more than to froth at the mouth and devour human flesh wherever found.

Another thing I think is unfortunate is the fact that just about every combat arms outfit in the Army is better trained for a PKO than they are their actual mission. Well, that's gonna change. Within 5 years, there won't be a soldier above the rank of PFC that hasn't seen combat, I bet.

Marines know nothing but to kill until all the killin's done. No thinking - killing. No eating, don't have any food - killing. What, out of ammo? Go take some from that guy you just killed. It doesn't fit? MAKE IT FIT!!!

I'd take the Marines in a drinking contest too, by the way!

DeltaChaos

Originally posted by minimi
Go for it Devilwasp. Royal Marines are one of the best units in the world, and being RN, you'll be top of the RN>Army>RAF heirarchy.

i hear ya !wanna be a comabt engineer! thier the best paid guys in the world for infantry stuff!
and id say thier the best amphibois force out thier and the ligistics core! those guys rock!

Actually, to dispel all myths, the pay is the same regardless of MOS. The difference is in the rate at which you get promoted.

I'm not going to comment on the who is better part.

naw the RMC are the best paid infantry men in the world
but if your meaning whos better paid yank side then id say army rangers thier the same level of training and the rangers get paid more BUT most rangers dont go to many places

[Edited on 4-5-2004 by devilwasp]

Yes, I was talking about US. And no, Rangers don't make more than any other branch.

Let's see if I can explain this. Regardless of the branch or occupation, you get the same money. It's based on rank. If I am an E3 in the USMC, that's a LCpl by the way, I would make the same money as an E3 in the Army or in the Navy or in the Air Force. I could be infantry in the Marines and someone in the Army that's a cook would make the same money as me as long as that person was the same rank. Don't believe me? Google it or go to dfas.mil and look up the pay scale. Considering I'm prior service, I think I'm a reliable source.

There are additions to your pay:

BAQ, if you are married and live out in town.
Combat and hazardous duty pay, if you are in a combat zone.
Per Diem, pay per day to help you live or subsist.
Jump pay, this is for people that are jump qualified as long as they are currently serving in a jump billet or job. Very few actively carry this in a regular unit cause they don't jump.
Dive pay, same as jump pay, just for divers.
Comrats, this is money you get to help pay for your food if you are married.

Heck, here's a link, look it up for yourself.

www.dfas.mil...

hmm shows which country loves their marines

Originally posted by DareDevil
It would be easy to say that the Marine Corps is the best or Rangers, or SF (Special Forces) or Navy SEALs are the best but that just isn't so. Each one is designed for a specific purpose and each one is the best at what they do. It's apple's and oranges to compare Rangers to Marine M.E.U's. All in all they are brothers in arms and rely on each other to help get the job done.

Thank god for logic!!!!!

Different forces for different tasks............. with a common goal.
Who wud uh thunk it?

[Edited on 5-5-2004 by Facefirst]

I just happened to stumble across this site, and I read all of the posts on this forum (army vs Marine) and I was compelled to join just to get in on the fun.

I will never bash my sister services seriously because its like the toe gunner said, we all serve our country in our designated capacity. Im not going to lie and say that I dont think I couldnt kick some soldiers-of-one ass (no, really ) But on the serious side... The Marine recrut depot teaches "Every Marine is a Rifleman". This statement is a true testament to how seriously we take our jobs- Every Marine has two jobs. His or her MOS and the dedication to that wonderful tool called the M16-A2 service rifle. In every rifle range data book, if you open the front cover, you will find one of the greatest works of poetry that a Marine can ever read... The Riflemens Creed. No other service dedicates more maksmanship and combat training to its basic ground forces, than the United States Marine Corps.

No other service trains all its marines to be comandos.....just a little side note. he he i aint saying the royals are better or that the USMC just stateing a fact