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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
And in Israel there are more then million Arabic citizens.
Fact.
I bet that you support Palestinian independent state.
So why you expect Israel to grant its citizenship to Palestinians who want their own country?
And why you expect them to recieve same rights as citizens of other country - Israel?
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by Alpha_Magnum
Oh, FAIL explains it of course. Place and religion have much in common. Weird that one existed for 2000 years without another but it is ok. Not a long time. But even more puzzling is that "place" once established tried to outdate the religion and indeed failed.
Place and religion.
Ok. Epic Lulz.
How did those Arabs get citizenship when Israeli law says that non-Jews are not allowed citizenship?
I thought there was no such thing as "Palestinians," according to the Zionist crowd.
So you admit that Palestine is a country?
Established in 1948 as the Jewish State, struggling for its safe existence and in constants pursuit of peaceful coexistence with its neighbors; from history and geography, to politics and economy, here are the facts about the State of Israel ~~ Ynetnews
In the wake of the Holocaust, the Jewish community in the Land of Israel, as well as the worldwide Zionist Movement, became increasingly cognizant of the fact that an independent and sovereign Jewish state was necessary to provide a safe haven for the decimated Jewish nation. ~~ Ynetnews
"I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from practical consideration, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain -- especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state." ~~ Albert Einstein
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
reply to post by breakingdradles
Zionism was a non-religious movement. It was using religion just as one of tool to get independent country. In the land where there was no independent country at the time, where there was no specific territorial nation at the time. Palestinian nation was born afterwards. Even army of Palestinian Arabs in 1948 war was not called Palestinians.
Being an Arab and not Palestinian is no reason to become fugitive of course. However not religion is the cause of it. War is. If Arab leaders would accept UN partition plan - this would not happen. War is responsible for Jewish fugitives too. Where Egyptian/Syrian armies captured Jewish area - Jews were also thrown out. So if Israel captured more land then its rivals does not make Israel the only barbarian of 1948. To take one side to spotlight and leave actions of other in the dark is like showing boxing match with only one boxer.
You don't dispute the hanus actions, only the technicalities within my reply? Why is that not suprising coming from a pro-israeli?
Not even Hamas is disputing the 1948 boarders
Why do you think israel should not return to the boarders the UN gave them and continue breaking international law by daily expanding the illegal jewish-only settlement's boarders?
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