Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Animal
Our infrastructure needs to be rebuilt if we are to once again to become a creditor nation rather than a debtor nation
I'm not stating that this shouldn't be done...i think it does need to be addressed...but we need to go about it a different way.
This alone is not going to make us a creditor nation. Spending needs to be cut dramatically to help erase the debt. That's not going to
happen...they are going to tax us even more.
I did not say this is going to solve the problem alone either. In fact I was very clear that the solution is going to be comprised of many aspects. I
was saying that we need to once again become a producer of goods, you know manufacturing. In order for us to once again begin producing goods we need
to invest in our infrastructure. In addition we also need policy that keeps business, manufacturing, and thus jobs here in the USA rather than in
India, China, Mexico and all the other nations where US corporations can exploit the lower class citizens who have not even a shred of fair
representation in government and thus get paid $1 a week, or the company can pollute and do what ever makes them more money.
Frankly I find the notion that reducing the spending of money is going to solve this problem silly. I would really like to hear an good explanation of
how cutting spending is going to save us in the long run.
Originally posted by marg6043
Sorry to bring the main point here, but esdad71 layout the main reason why America doesn't have jobs anymore.
Even our service jobs are been outsourced....
If America doesn't stop the bad policies enacted during the Clinton administration, that means the NAFTA the WTO and the VAT Obama stimulus will
become nothing more than another failure and more burden on the Americans tax payer.
While China and south of the border will be reaping the benefits and profits of it.
I could not agree more with this. We need to prevent our corporations for fleeing the USA to make more for themselves while leaving the nation 'high
and dry'. We need to undo or severely limit the roll in globalization as it is in the end benefiting corporations and the nations. Ricardo (grand-dad
of free trade and globalization) talked about how this idea of comparative advantage, which is at the heart of globaization and free trade worked
because currencies were limited by the boarders of each individual nation, something that has not been true for a long long time. In today's world
where money travels as fast as information the underpinning concepts of this scheme are missing making it, irrelevant.
Then look around you and see how in America[ns?] are still working and working everyday, illegal immigrants they are the ones that do most of
the service jobs available and the infrastructure jobs in construction.
I would have to beg to differ on half of this. The illegals are limited in the jobs they can get. I would like to see some good proof that it is
illegals who are doing more if the infrastructure work in this nation.
Yet they are taking up a lot of jobs, in the service industry. While I agree that is a problem I do not think that this nation should and could
survive on service industry jobs alone, thus the need for improved infrastructure and the recreation of a manufacturing industry here int he USA.
Yes I can already see the massive border wave that will take over by illegal immigrants when Obama release the millions of dollars for the
infrastructure in the nation.
Infrastructure jobs are going to be largely staffed by government agencies making it very unlikely that these jobs will be filled by illegals rather
than citizens.
Whats more if we include things like alternative energy and alternative transportation in this rebuilding it will take trained and skilled labor to
fill the positions not half-literate (no offense I am simply talking about english proficiency) illegals.
[edit on 11-1-2009 by Animal]
