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reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 12:48 PM by ambushrocks
I believe the vampire story starts with lilith en.wikipedia.org... (Sumerian 4000bc). The woman you are referring to as the empress bathing in blood is in fact a countess by the name of elisabeth bathory en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 12:58 PM by wheresthetruth
One can roll this story back a bit further than Vlad. In the times before modern mortuary services, people were not embalmed. Some could not even be proven dead when they were buried.
Bells were hanged above the graves and strings run down and tied to a finger so that if a person awoke, the bell would ring in the panic. They could then be dug up before dying of hysteria or suffocation.
Bodies not drained and then embalmed induce riggor and will move, twitch or out right jump. When they would dig up bodies this long into death, they opened the caskets only to see the bodies sit up or the arms reach out. As well, the body becomes bloated in death and the movement let out a howling sound as the built up gases expelled, which gave the impression of the dead person screaming out.

This began the mythos of the undead since they did not have the medical knowledge at the time to know what was happening. All they saw was a rotting corpse sitting up, reaching out and screaming out in pain. They literally stumbled upon the means of "killing" the undead by staking the heart, which seemed to suppress the undead back into death. Thereby, the first means of destroying the undead was to stake them through the heart. Further demonizing this myth was lead by the fact that this could not be the work of God, so this must be a form of demonic possession. This brought the priests into the realm of purifying the corpse.
However, not all of the "undead" died from just a stake. Cutting off the head was added as a measure of insuring that the dead remained dead.

So, this is the origin of the myth that to kill a vampire, you force a wooden stake into the heart and cut the head from the body to insure they stay dead.

I would like to correct that Vlad III is Vlad Dracul/Tepes. Vlad IV is Vlad the Monk. He is not related to the Devil/Impaler legacy beyond being the youngest brother and eventual ruling successor.

Vlad Tepes later does become the familiar blood lusting demonic face of the origin of the vampires. Count Dracula, a blood drinking night stalker that is the immortal embodiment of one man's sins against God and humanity.

Of course, thanks to Hollywood and the tourist attraction at Castle Dracula, a lot of the history of the truth behind the myth has been distorted and lost.


reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 01:14 PM by wheresthetruth
Originally posted by Xtrozero
There was a great Vlad documentary on the History Channel a few months ago. He was basically abused greatly as a child by an army invader, and his family were all killed in nasty ways. What he did later in life was revenge and the results of his abuse. Also since his army was greatly outnumbered he used the fear of his vicious treatment of the enemy as psy ops. Whether he did it out of enjoyment is something to ponder on, but much of it points to rational reasons instead.




[edit on 30-12-2008 by Xtrozero]


Partly true. To dissuade attackers, he lined the only passage to his fortress with the impaled bodies of his enemies so that the advancing troops would see the lengths he was willing to go to protect his rule and his land. This is what gave him the moniker Vlad the Impaler. It was a most effective form of mental warfare against those who would invade. It was also mental warfare against his own people. They lived under the rule of a man so evil and disturbed.

It should also be noted that Vlad did not do this because his family was brutalized or destroyed. After the death of Vlad the Dragon, his family fought over the title. The family was split into 2 factions. Vlad III had 2 brothers: Radu, who aligned with and lead against Vlad III, the very Turks that were impaled and Vlad IV (Vlad the Monk), who would not fight. Radu and Vlad III were leaders of war, but Vlad IV did not fight, rather waited until the end of Vlad III's life to claim the throne for himself.

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