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Homer, may I ask why you called Obama a socialist?
A socialist is the economic term for the government controlling the means of production and the economy.
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Why do you doubt Obama so much?
It turned out to be a mistake and we didn't have a plan for going in and that's why it took so long.
Originally posted by Ste2652
I don't think there will be any moves towards the Euro until after an election; Brown simply isn't in a strong enough position to push it through, and he just couldn't get away with taking the UK into the Eurozone without a referendum (which he would almost certainly lose). Especially after the fuss over the Lisbon Treaty...
Labour aren't in any shape to fight a campaign on the Euro. They face a real uphill struggle to get re-elected, and throwing in the deeply divisive Euro won't be a good idea for any rational person to suggest as the backdrop for an election campaign.
Will the UK go into the Euro? Quite possibly. Will it be in 2009? No. At the very earliest I'd say 2011, and only if Labour remain in office... by which time there might not be any impetus to join the Euro if the Pound has recovered its position. If the Conservatives win the election and get a working majority in the Commons, the idea of going into the Euro is pretty much dead until they're out of office.
[edit on 30/12/08 by Ste2652]
Originally posted by Homer Fife
reply to post by Frankidealist35
Homer, may I ask why you called Obama a socialist?
Sure.
Because he is.
I just asked because a lot of people use that term without knowing what it means.
A socialist is the economic term for the government controlling the means of production and the economy.
You are incorrect, or more accurately, you are far too simplistic.
: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
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Obama in a nut shell.
I don't think Obama is a socialist. Why? If he was he would be a lot more revolutionary sounding like. Obama is more like a social Democrat, or shall I say, he's more like a progressive.
Why do you doubt Obama so much?
Why do you believe in him, or any politician so much? I do not fall for anyone, especially someone that so desperately wants to hide the truth.
It turned out to be a mistake and we didn't have a plan for going in and that's why it took so long.