Originally posted by LowLevelMason
Were you truly as non-partisan as you believe (I am assuming this since you proclaimed yourself not a democrat, which sent me falling out of my chair in laughter) you should be outraged and indignant at such a bigoted claim.

Why? I have said I wasn't offended by the song or by Saltsman's little gift. I just think it's a very stupid thing for him to have done, considering he was in contention for the chairman position. I am not outraged and indignant at the LA Times Opinion piece either. Why do you think I should be outraged and indignant?

But no, as expected, the LA Times is free to do what it wants because it fits with your political views.

What are you talking about? I'm not even familiar with the LA Times. Hello?

, as you are certainly not the only one doing this and you were not the first.

Doing what?

Originally posted by pteridine
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What the song does is to show the "sour grapes" attitude of the GOP. I believe that many Americans voted for Obama not because he was of mixed race but because he was the better man for the job.
[edit on 12/26/2008 by pteridine]

and your basis for this statement? what is his experience?
so you're telling me that mc cain, who was groomed his entire life, was less qualified than barry?
slicker does not mean better. please ,look at this logically. change?
first thing he does is make the president of the new york federal reserve secretary of the treasury.
nothing like letting the fox loose in the henhouse.
and his decisive response to what israel did?
the bago incident?
good god,man...he's not even in office yet!

Originally posted by sos37
So it was funny when SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender and lack of education and her pregnant daughter and when the media criticized Sarah's newly born Down's child?

SNL is a comedy show, not a high-level member of the GOP. Besides, I must have missed the skits making fun of Palin's gender and Down's baby. Do you have a link?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by sos37
So it was funny when SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender and lack of education and her pregnant daughter and when the media criticized Sarah's newly born Down's child?

SNL is a comedy show, not a high-level member of the GOP. Besides, I must have missed the skits making fun of Palin's gender and Down's baby. Do you have a link?

Re-read what I posted. SNL made fun of everything to do with Palin, but I didn't say they made fun of her Down's child. That would have been crossing the line, even for SNL. What I said was:

"when the media criticized Sarah's newly born Down's child?"

The media jumped on the opportunity that Sarah had a Down's child to criticize her role as a mother and not being there for that child by seeking to fill a role that would take her away from that child much of the time.

I apologize. I did read it wrong. So, can you show me where "SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender"?

Still, the media didn't criticize the child, did they? They criticized HER. Much like the criticisms of Clinton, Obama, and McCain. The MEDIA (not a Republican running for a chair of a committee) used various pieces of those people's lives to criticize them. And in Obama and McCain's case, even went after their wives. In Obama's case, they went after his friends, relatives, acquaintances, 2 GRANDMOTHERS...

In fact, here's what YOU said about his grandmother about a week before she died:

Originally posted by sos37
Not only do I believe Barack Obama is FAKING this show of emotional caring for his "sickly" grandmother, but if she really is sick I wouldn't put it past someone from the Democratic party to have been the cause of her illness, perhaps even at Barack Obama's own order!
...
Perhaps Obama began to sweat and told one of his goons to go shut her up before she said something really damaging to his campaign.

I seriously would not put it past Barack Obama to have ordered a hit on his grandmother to shut her up so as not to spoil his chances for POTUS.

That's worse than ANYTHING the media ever said about Palin.

They didn't make fun of Sarah because she had a Down's child, did they? They didn't make a song entitled "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama", did they? THAT would be on the same level as "Barack the Magic Negro".

Would you be offended if if Howard Dean bought a bunch of DCs with "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama" and sent it out to the members of the DNC as a funny joke? Would you be STEAMING? Would you be angrier than your avatar?

[edit on 29-12-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I apologize. I did read it wrong. So, can you show me where "SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender"?

Still, the media didn't criticize the child, did they? They criticized HER. Much like the criticisms of Clinton, Obama, and McCain. The MEDIA (not a Republican running for a chair of a committee) used various pieces of those people's lives to criticize them. And in Obama and McCain's case, even went after their wives. In Obama's case, they went after his friends, relatives, acquaintances, 2 GRANDMOTHERS...

In fact, here's what YOU said about his grandmother about a week before she died:

Originally posted by sos37
Not only do I believe Barack Obama is FAKING this show of emotional caring for his "sickly" grandmother, but if she really is sick I wouldn't put it past someone from the Democratic party to have been the cause of her illness, perhaps even at Barack Obama's own order!
...
Perhaps Obama began to sweat and told one of his goons to go shut her up before she said something really damaging to his campaign.

I seriously would not put it past Barack Obama to have ordered a hit on his grandmother to shut her up so as not to spoil his chances for POTUS.

That's worse than ANYTHING the media ever said about Palin.

They didn't make fun of Sarah because she had a Down's child, did they? They didn't make a song entitled "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama", did they? THAT would be on the same level as "Barack the Magic Negro".

Would you be offended if if Howard Dean bought a bunch of DCs with "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama" and sent it out to the members of the DNC as a funny joke? Would you be STEAMING? Would you be angrier than your avatar?

[edit on 29-12-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]

I'm still standing by that quote that you posted. It wasn't a joke, it's not meant to be propaganda and I'm serious about the content. Obama is a politician. A Chicago politician at that. I believe 90+% of career politicians are nothing but pure slimeballs. I'm not convinced that he wouldn't sacrifice a grandmother, an aunt (look at the conditions his aunt was living illegally here in the U.S.), an uncle, a brother (look at the conditions the one in Kenya was living under), etc. if it was a choice of that versus his political career.

But as I said later on in the thread from part of which you quoted, the only people I can't see him sacrificing for his political career are his children.

Every skit done by SNL implied that McCain picked Palin because she was a woman. Every accusation by the media said the same.

And you're right, I no longer watch SNL because of the political lows they stooped to this year. I think the skits were largely making fun of the conservative candidates with almost none making fun of Obama. Making fun of a blind governor was a low, low blow and not funny at all in my opinion. One Tina Fey/Sarah Palin joke - fine. A dozen - okay. But balance it out, okay? Do just as many about the opposing parties. Don't make it ALL about the Republicans. Tina Fey has lost my respect for doing so many of those portrayals and I won't watch another movie with her in it. And SNL - I won't be watching it ever again. To me, it's glory days were about 10-15 years ago.

So to answer your question, yes, I was upset with all of the above mentioned. And when members of this board expressed our outrage, members of the opposing parties thumbed their noses at us, saying "lighten up" and "it's just a TV show".

So why is it not just as appropriate to say that to those offended by the "magic negro" song? Lighten up! It's just a parody!

This seems like the classic 'Much Ado About Nothing.' A racist commentary was professed in a public forum.... and? What? Is there something new here that hasn't been done before? I have to wonder the same thing the other member did, so it's ok for a black man to go on national television and make white jokes, but it's not ok for a white guy to go on tv and make black jokes? It doesn't matter what their individual job titles are, a racist comment is a racist comment. If you truly believe in the equality you all profess, then you have to accept them both. Boycott the next non-white you hear making white jokes, otherwise, your just being a hypocrite.

Chrono

First of all, yes, I've read all of the previous posts, and I'm in agreement with the majority of them.

I do not watch television nor listen to radio, deriving all of my news from a comparison of a broad range of news sources across the Internet — accordingly, I've known for almost 2 years about Paul Shanklin's parody Barack The Magic Negro, about its origins, about its content, about its impact.

For nearly two (2) years.

So, where was the righteous indignation on the part of these Obama-defenders two years ago? Where was the objection during the heat of the 2008 campaign? Where was this opposition to free-speech prior to the election of Barack Hussein Obama?

Suddenly, it seems, Barack The Magic Negro has burst upon the consciousness of a blinking and innocent news media.

Indicating — to me, anyway — that those who support and defend with their dying breath this new presidential nobody Barack Obama actually have not a clue about the origins of Barack the Magic Negro, nor about current events in general.

This is a disgusting and disturbing comment on both the voting public and the "trusted" American news media, wouldn't you say?

The information — the truth, if you will — is out there, and it's been out there for almost two years, for anyone with a driblet of curiosity to explore.

I think that explains the current controversy. Those who support and defend this nobody socialist hood ornament who was recently elected to the White House are those who express no curiosity about the truth, nor about the integrity of the cardboard cut-outs they elect to our highest offices.


Doc Velocity

The good news for the GOP is that Chip self destructed now rather than after he might have been elected leader. Goodbye, Mr. Chip. We see political Darwinism in action.