Surprise!!! RNC chairman candidate defends 'Barack the Magic Negro' song...(?)

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


The LA Times article clearly calls Barack Obama the magic negro and tells us that white people really aren't capable of voting for a black man based on the merits but simply to assuage their white guilt. Were you truly as non-partisan as you believe (I am assuming this since you proclaimed yourself not a democrat, which sent me falling out of my chair in laughter) you should be outraged and indignant at such a bigoted claim.

But no, as expected, the LA Times is free to do what it wants because it fits with your political views. Rush Limbaugh's parody of the LA Times own words however, is seen as "outrageous." That's the editorial "you" by the way and I am not referring to you personally, as you are certainly not the only one doing this and you were not the first.

In any case, the hypocrisy couldn't be anymore obvious.

[edit on 28-12-2008 by LowLevelMason]

Originally posted by LowLevelMason
Were you truly as non-partisan as you believe (I am assuming this since you proclaimed yourself not a democrat, which sent me falling out of my chair in laughter) you should be outraged and indignant at such a bigoted claim.

Why? I have said I wasn't offended by the song or by Saltsman's little gift. I just think it's a very stupid thing for him to have done, considering he was in contention for the chairman position. I am not outraged and indignant at the LA Times Opinion piece either. Why do you think I should be outraged and indignant?

But no, as expected, the LA Times is free to do what it wants because it fits with your political views.

What are you talking about? I'm not even familiar with the LA Times. Hello?

, as you are certainly not the only one doing this and you were not the first.

Doing what?

So it was funny when SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender and lack of education and her pregnant daughter and when the media criticized Sarah's newly born Down's child? It was funny when SNL made fun of John McCain because of his age and blind New York Governor David Patterson (who didn't think the portrayal was funny at all - newsbusters.org...), but when someone makes fun of Obama on the race issue all bets are off?

Sounds pretty hipocrytical. You guys offended by the "magic negro" joke go on and enjoy your double standard of life.

Originally posted by pteridine
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What the song does is to show the "sour grapes" attitude of the GOP. I believe that many Americans voted for Obama not because he was of mixed race but because he was the better man for the job.
[edit on 12/26/2008 by pteridine]

and your basis for this statement? what is his experience?
so you're telling me that mc cain, who was groomed his entire life, was less qualified than barry?
slicker does not mean better. please ,look at this logically. change?
first thing he does is make the president of the new york federal reserve secretary of the treasury.
nothing like letting the fox loose in the henhouse.
and his decisive response to what israel did?
the bago incident?
good god,man...he's not even in office yet!

Originally posted by Spectre0o0
and your basis for this statement?

People have different opinions as to what qualifies a person to be "the better man for the job". To you, perhaps previous political experience is what's most important. To many (including myself) it's not. Some of our worst presidents were those with the most experience, and likewise, some of our best presidents had very little or none.

Obama has 12 years of experience.
Lincoln had 10.
FDR had 6.
Teddy Roosevelt - 4.5
Eisenhower - 11.

How much experience would you require?

Presidents and Experience

he's not even in office yet!

Exactly. And only when we see the results of his choices can we judge what kind of president he will be. Many will disagree with him, but only the results will tell how good he is for our country.

Originally posted by sos37
So it was funny when SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender and lack of education and her pregnant daughter and when the media criticized Sarah's newly born Down's child?

SNL is a comedy show, not a high-level member of the GOP. Besides, I must have missed the skits making fun of Palin's gender and Down's baby. Do you have a link?

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by sos37
So it was funny when SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender and lack of education and her pregnant daughter and when the media criticized Sarah's newly born Down's child?

SNL is a comedy show, not a high-level member of the GOP. Besides, I must have missed the skits making fun of Palin's gender and Down's baby. Do you have a link?

Re-read what I posted. SNL made fun of everything to do with Palin, but I didn't say they made fun of her Down's child. That would have been crossing the line, even for SNL. What I said was:

"when the media criticized Sarah's newly born Down's child?"

The media jumped on the opportunity that Sarah had a Down's child to criticize her role as a mother and not being there for that child by seeking to fill a role that would take her away from that child much of the time.

I apologize. I did read it wrong. So, can you show me where "SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender"?

Still, the media didn't criticize the child, did they? They criticized HER. Much like the criticisms of Clinton, Obama, and McCain. The MEDIA (not a Republican running for a chair of a committee) used various pieces of those people's lives to criticize them. And in Obama and McCain's case, even went after their wives. In Obama's case, they went after his friends, relatives, acquaintances, 2 GRANDMOTHERS...

In fact, here's what YOU said about his grandmother about a week before she died:

Originally posted by sos37
Not only do I believe Barack Obama is FAKING this show of emotional caring for his "sickly" grandmother, but if she really is sick I wouldn't put it past someone from the Democratic party to have been the cause of her illness, perhaps even at Barack Obama's own order!
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Perhaps Obama began to sweat and told one of his goons to go shut her up before she said something really damaging to his campaign.

I seriously would not put it past Barack Obama to have ordered a hit on his grandmother to shut her up so as not to spoil his chances for POTUS.

That's worse than ANYTHING the media ever said about Palin.

They didn't make fun of Sarah because she had a Down's child, did they? They didn't make a song entitled "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama", did they? THAT would be on the same level as "Barack the Magic Negro".

Would you be offended if if Howard Dean bought a bunch of DCs with "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama" and sent it out to the members of the DNC as a funny joke? Would you be STEAMING? Would you be angrier than your avatar?

[edit on 29-12-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]

Originally posted by aravoth
reply to post by whaaa

It is people like you and the op, that have set civilization back. You victimize millions of people because of stupid differences they have with you, because you know, deep down, you are better than them, and they need your help, if they are ever going to make it.

What? You're giving me and the op credit for setting civilization back and victimizing millions of people.

Get real! I'm just a brutally handsome, talented, superstar with a few thousand fans; not millions!

But thanks for the oppurnity to blow my own horn...
Check me out behind Paul Sarvino here.
www.youtube.com...

[edit on 29-12-2008 by whaaa]

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
OK, is this a surprise?

While I think this post right down to title and subject PERFECTLY mocks Semper's silly thread of earlier that day...

Still nothing wrong here either, and good luck to Rush and the RNC with their new party platform, though many of your dwindling African American members disagree.

Dr. Ada Fisher is again taking a stand in the race for a new Republican national chairman.

As one of three black members of the Republican National Committee, the Salisbury doctor is in a rare position for the GOP as it figures out how to respond to the election of Barack Obama.

Far be it for me to give the RNC advice, but if you're down to three African Americans, maybe....

Nah. You guys know what you're doing!

[edit on 29-12-2008 by Article11]

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I apologize. I did read it wrong. So, can you show me where "SNL repeatedly made fun of Sarah Palin because of her gender"?

Still, the media didn't criticize the child, did they? They criticized HER. Much like the criticisms of Clinton, Obama, and McCain. The MEDIA (not a Republican running for a chair of a committee) used various pieces of those people's lives to criticize them. And in Obama and McCain's case, even went after their wives. In Obama's case, they went after his friends, relatives, acquaintances, 2 GRANDMOTHERS...

In fact, here's what YOU said about his grandmother about a week before she died:

Originally posted by sos37
Not only do I believe Barack Obama is FAKING this show of emotional caring for his "sickly" grandmother, but if she really is sick I wouldn't put it past someone from the Democratic party to have been the cause of her illness, perhaps even at Barack Obama's own order!
...
Perhaps Obama began to sweat and told one of his goons to go shut her up before she said something really damaging to his campaign.

I seriously would not put it past Barack Obama to have ordered a hit on his grandmother to shut her up so as not to spoil his chances for POTUS.

That's worse than ANYTHING the media ever said about Palin.

They didn't make fun of Sarah because she had a Down's child, did they? They didn't make a song entitled "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama", did they? THAT would be on the same level as "Barack the Magic Negro".

Would you be offended if if Howard Dean bought a bunch of DCs with "Sarah, the Retarded Boy's Mama" and sent it out to the members of the DNC as a funny joke? Would you be STEAMING? Would you be angrier than your avatar?

[edit on 29-12-2008 by Benevolent Heretic]

I'm still standing by that quote that you posted. It wasn't a joke, it's not meant to be propaganda and I'm serious about the content. Obama is a politician. A Chicago politician at that. I believe 90+% of career politicians are nothing but pure slimeballs. I'm not convinced that he wouldn't sacrifice a grandmother, an aunt (look at the conditions his aunt was living illegally here in the U.S.), an uncle, a brother (look at the conditions the one in Kenya was living under), etc. if it was a choice of that versus his political career.

But as I said later on in the thread from part of which you quoted, the only people I can't see him sacrificing for his political career are his children.

Every skit done by SNL implied that McCain picked Palin because she was a woman. Every accusation by the media said the same.

And you're right, I no longer watch SNL because of the political lows they stooped to this year. I think the skits were largely making fun of the conservative candidates with almost none making fun of Obama. Making fun of a blind governor was a low, low blow and not funny at all in my opinion. One Tina Fey/Sarah Palin joke - fine. A dozen - okay. But balance it out, okay? Do just as many about the opposing parties. Don't make it ALL about the Republicans. Tina Fey has lost my respect for doing so many of those portrayals and I won't watch another movie with her in it. And SNL - I won't be watching it ever again. To me, it's glory days were about 10-15 years ago.

So to answer your question, yes, I was upset with all of the above mentioned. And when members of this board expressed our outrage, members of the opposing parties thumbed their noses at us, saying "lighten up" and "it's just a TV show".

So why is it not just as appropriate to say that to those offended by the "magic negro" song? Lighten up! It's just a parody!

This seems like the classic 'Much Ado About Nothing.' A racist commentary was professed in a public forum.... and? What? Is there something new here that hasn't been done before? I have to wonder the same thing the other member did, so it's ok for a black man to go on national television and make white jokes, but it's not ok for a white guy to go on tv and make black jokes? It doesn't matter what their individual job titles are, a racist comment is a racist comment. If you truly believe in the equality you all profess, then you have to accept them both. Boycott the next non-white you hear making white jokes, otherwise, your just being a hypocrite.

Chrono

reply to post by Walkswithfish


If parody becomes illegal, then freedom of speech is in serious jeopardy.

When Jesse Jackson said he wanted to emasculate Obama the press hushed up the story. The Paul Shanklin song was meant for laughs while the Rev. Jackson's comment was not. Oh, the hypocrisy! Why am I not surprised?

First of all, yes, I've read all of the previous posts, and I'm in agreement with the majority of them.

I do not watch television nor listen to radio, deriving all of my news from a comparison of a broad range of news sources across the Internet — accordingly, I've known for almost 2 years about Paul Shanklin's parody Barack The Magic Negro, about its origins, about its content, about its impact.

For nearly two (2) years.

So, where was the righteous indignation on the part of these Obama-defenders two years ago? Where was the objection during the heat of the 2008 campaign? Where was this opposition to free-speech prior to the election of Barack Hussein Obama?

Suddenly, it seems, Barack The Magic Negro has burst upon the consciousness of a blinking and innocent news media.

Indicating — to me, anyway — that those who support and defend with their dying breath this new presidential nobody Barack Obama actually have not a clue about the origins of Barack the Magic Negro, nor about current events in general.

This is a disgusting and disturbing comment on both the voting public and the "trusted" American news media, wouldn't you say?

The information — the truth, if you will — is out there, and it's been out there for almost two years, for anyone with a driblet of curiosity to explore.

I think that explains the current controversy. Those who support and defend this nobody socialist hood ornament who was recently elected to the White House are those who express no curiosity about the truth, nor about the integrity of the cardboard cut-outs they elect to our highest offices.


Doc Velocity

RNC head shocked and appaled...

Current RNC chairman Mike Duncan has issued a statement saying he is "shocked and appalled" that Saltsman could have thought this was funny or appropriate in any way:

Duncan's statement, in full: "The 2008 election was a wake-up call for Republicans to reach out and bring more people into our party. I am shocked and appalled that anyone would think this is appropriate, as it clearly does not move us in the right direction."

Now Newt disgusted....

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich stated with regards to the issue: "This is so inappropriate that it should disqualify any Republican National Committee candidate who would use it."

I mean, when Newt Gingrinch thinks you're an inbred caveman, you must be bad.

The good news for the GOP is that Chip self destructed now rather than after he might have been elected leader. Goodbye, Mr. Chip. We see political Darwinism in action.

reply to post by Doc Velocity

You said "Those who support and defend this nobody socialist hood ornament who was recently elected to the White House are those who express no curiosity about the truth, nor about the integrity of the cardboard cut-outs they elect to our highest offices."

I refer you to those who expressed a great deal of curiousity about the integrity of the George Bush and Dick Cheney cutouts. Alas, after eight years of searching for some integrity in these individuals, we have still to find any.