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Originally posted by RFBurns
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there is nothing to prove that someone out there viewing this sh.. woldnt take it to the next level.
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...remember Columbine? Or have you all forgotten. Those cracker jacks based their little shooting rage on a game...and the victims of that were all "Doom"ed werent they.
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Dutty_Rag is correct. Making it illegal to *look* is a thought crime and can be stretched by moralistic, fear-mongering, self-serving, hypocritical politicians as far as their agenda requires.
According to experts, child pornography has become a multi-billion dollar commercial enterprise, and is among the fastest growing businesses on the Internet.(1)findarticles.com...
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage
Also, I'm really confused by those who seem to think child porn is mostly rampant around pedos who simply share vids with friends. Don't kid yourselves, it is a full blown industry.
According to experts, child pornography has become a multi-billion dollar commercial enterprise, and is among the fastest growing businesses on the Internet.(1)findarticles.com...
[edit on 11-12-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]
There has to be a need for it yes but the need comes from individuals wanting to get off on being with kids and they video tape it so they can "relive" the event over and over. Later they decide to share with a friend or community but regardless if that community watches it or not, its still there.
If youre referring to me and this statement that I made.
Personally I wanted to see Jeramy Irons do the kid.. The actress was about 25 anyway.
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage
Also, I'm really confused by those who seem to think child porn is mostly rampant around pedos who simply share vids with friends. Don't kid yourselves, it is a full blown industry.
According to experts, child pornography has become a multi-billion dollar commercial enterprise, and is among the fastest growing businesses on the Internet.(1)findarticles.com...
[edit on 11-12-2008 by rapinbatsisaltherage]
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by Anonymous ATS
Your argument is based on fallacies; you set up the terms and demonize them.
A thought crime is charging someone for something they are thinking. Those possessing child porn are charged because they have pictures of victims being victimized, fueling the distribution and production of these images that can not be created with out illegally victimizing a child.
Self-serving politicians are not the only people who believe in keeping child porn illegal to view. That right there shows your bias toward this argument. I am not at all a moralistic person, when it comes to these issues legality is important, not morality, because these are legal issues. The case against child porn is a substantial legal one. When I can hear a logical, legal argument that disconnects the abuse of children from viewing child porn and studies that refute claims of how viewing of the porn affects our society then I’ll be willing to change my legal opinion, but not my moral one. Your opinion reeks of your own morality, not legality.
Bella Swan has always been a little bit different. Never one to run with the crowd, Bella never cared about fitting in with the trendy, plastic girls at her Phoenix, Arizona high school. When her mother remarried and Bella chooses to live with her father in the rainy little town of Forks, Washington, she didn't expect much of anything to change. But things do change when she meets the mysterious and dazzlingly beautiful Edward Cullen. For Edward is nothing like any boy she's ever met. He's nothing like anyone she's ever met, period. He's intelligent and witty, and he seems to see straight into her soul. In no time at all, they are swept up in a passionate and decidedly unorthodox romance - unorthodox because Edward really isn't like the other boys. He can run faster than a mountain lion. He can stop a moving car with his bare hands. Oh, and he hasn't aged since 1918. Like all vampires, he's immortal. That's right - vampire. But he doesn't have fangs - that's just in the movies. And he doesn't drink human blood, though Edward and his family are unique among vampires in that lifestyle choice. To Edward, Bella is that thing he has waited 90 years for - a soul mate.
And who are those "experts"? Maybe the uncle of those moralistic, fear-mongering, self-serving, hypocritical politicians? Or their cousin?
And how do those "experts" know? And why don't they use that knowledge to stop it?
First of all, I don't understand the way by which you use the term "legality". It seems to me that "legal" is whatever we may choose.
I don't agree that seeing something, necessarily fuels its creation.
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by waterpie
First of all, I don't understand the way by which you use the term "legality". It seems to me that "legal" is whatever we may choose.
Clearly you don't understand because you don't understand legality. Personal moral opinions are based on several things depending on the way you were raised, your religion, etc. Legality focuses on making laws that do not conflict with civil rights clauses.
that viewing child porn does not fuel the industry, is not harmful to society, and is not linked to child abuse. So far it would seem the exact opposite is true of child porn.
I don't agree that seeing something, necessarily fuels its creation.
gave an example, that at some time in the past, it was legal to own slaves.
It does not fuel the "industry".
Just viewing an image cannot be harmful to society.
I don't have the time for more, but that is not "clearly".
Originally posted by waterpie
It does not fuel the "industry". What industry? I want to send them money, where are they?
And if there is an "industry" and I can send them money, then surely they can be caught while collecting.