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Topic started on 2-12-2008 @ 09:41 AM by sparkofdivine
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Hello all, I've been a long-time lurker here, and I believe this is only my second post on the site.
As my username implies, I believe that there is a God, and that we were created by this Being, in whatever way we choose to characterize it, whether
that be the Christian God, or Allah, etc.
That said, I had an experience around the age of 5 that has been a source of inspiration/frustration for me for many years now.
When I was about 5, I was very sick. (My parents later told me I had a life-threatening fever of 105 degrees.) While my parents were upstairs, I was
in the basement/playroom just snuggling in a bunch of blankets, feeling generally crappy. At this time, I just had a slight fever, and my parents let
me hang-out in the play-room because it made me feel more comfortable.
Well, I don't recall how long I was down there, but eventually I started seeing spots-- big green, purple, red spots in my field of vision. This
didn't scare me, rather it entertained me. (I used to close my eyes and press my fingers against my eyelids to create a "fireworks
show"...something my older brother taught me... wow, who knew messing with the proper blood circulation to your eyes could be so much fun!)
What happened next remains a mystery to me.
I looked at the TV we had downstairs, and I saw what I thought was a TV show... There was a man with his shirt off, and I witnessed small "buds"
appear on his back which slowly grew into wings. I seem to recall there also being a second person, a woman, growing wings as well.
Shortly after seeing this, my parents came down to check on me, discovered my 105 degree fever, and rushed me off to the hospital.
I recall having been iced-down...I don't know if it was in a bath tub or not, but I got the ice-treatment at the hospital.
My parents told me that I kept telling them, "I see angels, I see angels!"
Sometime later I discussed what I had seen with my parents-- the people/angels growing wings on TV. My mom and dad both told me that when they came to
check on me downstairs, the tv was OFF.
Alright, here is my question to all you ATS'ers:
Does anyone know of a possible movie/tv show which aired between 1978-1980 that could have had the scene I described?
My feelings will not be hurt to discover I simply saw a movie-- I'm just looking for answers!
Thanks all for reading, and if this thread is not in the appropriate forum, please move it mods.
Thanks again for any info you folks can offer!
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 09:49 AM by Resinveins
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High fever can cause hallucination. That's the simplest explanation. Is that what happened in your case? Who knows. But I would go so far as to
say... probably.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 09:52 AM by N. Tesla
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that would be my guess aswell. hallucinations caused by fever.
i had a great hallucination when i was around 8. i thought the bed was gonna eat me was pretty funny after i got better but i never looked at it the
same way again
where was i
o right the angels. well being an atheist i think that you just saw what you were trained to see. beings of light coming to help you in your time of
need.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:10 AM by sparkofdivine
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Having a degree in Psychology (and also working in the healthcare field,) I agree that hallucination is the most obvious explanation, along the lines
of Occam's Razor.
It does interest me the subject matter of the possible hallucination, as my father has always been an atheist, and I was not exposed to such religious
matters at that age.
I am not seeking to convince anyone of the possible existence of Angelic beings, only soliciting possible interpretations for what I saw. I really
would like to know if I WAS seeing a film/tv show, as that scene has been indelibly etched in my memory (however faulty we know memories can be).
Thanks for your replies.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:24 AM by antar
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I just think you had hallucinations from the sickness, yet you were also loved and protected by your Guardian Angels as well. Different set of physics
for the same situation. Happens all the time. If it had been less you would not still have complete memory of the Angels that loved you then and still
do.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:32 AM by theindependentjournal
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reply to post by sparkofdivine
Angels don't have wings except for the Cherubim whom have 6 wings. Read the Authorized King James Version and read the Creation story in Genesis to
see my point.
And God created them Male and Female in the image of God and the Angels...
Ever seen a man with wings? We were created in the image an likeness of God and the Angels yet not one human has ever had wings. So if you believe the
Bible is true, which it seems you do by your post you would have to mark this one up to some kind of brain fart or hallucination.
I hope this don't seem mean or degrading to the OP, it is not mean to be only meant to explain that Angels don't have wings according to God's
WORD. Unless GOD sent a Cherubim, which is not their job to be messengers or come to Earth, they have the job of protecting the Mercy Seat, that is to
say the Throne of Jesus, or the Ark of the Covenant.
Hope this helped you decipher your vision without demeaning your vision or feelings in any way. I just gave it to you as GOD's WORD says it.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:35 AM by damwel
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The Christian God IS Allah you know. He was the God of Abraham.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:36 AM by Resinveins
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The only movie I can think of with such imagery was a mid 90's flick called "Prophecy". Not a bad flick... though the sequels sort of sucked hard.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:48 AM by theindependentjournal
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reply to post by Resinveins
There was one other movie that gave this impression, altough it would have been correct in the name of the Arch Angel, but incorrect in the sending to
Earth part.
John Travolta played "Michael" and had wings. pretty good movie too for plot and characters but it was not based on any Biblical facts...
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:52 AM by antar
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Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by sparkofdivine
Angels don't have wings except for the Cherubim whom have 6 wings. Read the Authorized King James Version and read the Creation story in Genesis to
see my point.
And God created them Male and Female in the image of God and the Angels...
Oh You have it so wrong, Angels do indeed exist and they most certainly have HUGE WINGS!!!
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:54 AM by theindependentjournal
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reply to post by damwel
Allah is NOT the Christian GOD nor the GOD of Ishmaelites, Ishmael was Egyptian by his mother and went back to Egypt.
There is much information available on the web from both Historical perspectives and Religious but they agree.
Allah was one of 360 Gods of the region today known as Saudi Arabia, Allah was the greatest of the 360 gods and known as the Moon and War god, hence
today Allah Akbar "Allah is the greatest of gods". That is a plural phrase and instantly takes it out of monotheism
As I said this is historically accurate and religiously accurate and is well known to those who research it. If you would like to find out more from
the religious and historical sides check out this.
EDIT - It is at about 30 minutes into this video for the message on Allah, there is a mp3 of just this message available on Avi's site under the name
Victor Mordecai.
[edit on 12/2/2008 by theindependentjournal]
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 10:56 AM by mystiq
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I think its up to them how they chose to present themselves, with wings or not. For a child, they may go the whole 9 yards and show the wing things.
For an adult, it could be the homeless old man you are walking by.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 11:06 AM by Daz3d-n-Confus3d
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I knew a girl several years ago. At the time she was about 13 years old. She was in a terrible car accident. Her head went through the windshield and
it split her head wide open. The skull was cracked so badly the scalp was splt front to back. She said an older Hispanic lady held her head and kept
the wound closed long enough for the medics to get to her. When she got to the hospital she asked about the lady who held her head. No one saw the
lady but her. Could have been an angel? The medics said no one was there when they got to her but her parents, and they were not holding her head
because they were injured and semi-conscious. She believes it was an Angel.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 11:20 AM by antar
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My Mom and I were caught in a flood on Oakcreek in Sedona one time, An entire line of cars stopped and were taking pictures when suddenly a man drove
up in an old car, jumped out with a big rope, waged the flood waters and saved us.
By then the crowd was massive, the emergency services arrived and the man who saved us was nowhere to be found. We always thought he was an Angel. And
so did many of the people who watched as he bravely saved our lives. He was just gone.
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reply posted on 2-12-2008 @ 12:02 PM by sparkofdivine
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Thanks all for your insight and opinions.
I take no offense to any comments.
My intent was not meant to stir up any anti-Christian or "angels aren't real" sort of melodrama.
I was just curious to see if any movie had been made in the late 70's that may have been broadcasted on tv to possibly account for my experience.
I have no opinion on the nature of Allah, as I am not muslim... I only cited the additional reference to "a God" to describe the fact that I am
open-minded... at the age of my experience I was neither religious, nor spiritual.
As the years have progressed, I have (due to other personal experiences and study,) chosen to believe in the divinity of Jesus.
We all probably have strong beliefs about the validity of religion/God, but I would surmise none of us will know the truth about everything until
after we die.
Though I do believe in Jesus as a divine figure, I take issue with many biblical references which I believe to be figurative instances, not literal
ones (ie, the Earth created in 7 days, and the symbolic images in Revelations).
I know as well the references to Cherubim, Seraphim, and the "angel hierarchy", and the fact that angels with 2 bird-like wings (as portrayed on tv
and movies) are not described as such in biblical passages.
It is a pleasure to read everyone's input, and I am not offended by those who would believe that faith/religion/angels are the realm of the
intellectually stunted.
Thanks again for your responses!
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