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reply posted on 20-1-2003 @ 01:55 AM by quaneeri
www.serve.com...

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reply posted on 4-1-2007 @ 04:28 PM by samling
Am I to understand from this image: www.serve.com... that Papoose Lake is not within Area 51's boundaries (or at least, the proposed entrance to S4 isn't)?

If so, has anyone explored the location yet?

Also, this is my first post. I've been something of a lurker for a while, but I'm taking the dive and getting involved. Hello world!


reply posted on 6-1-2007 @ 09:14 PM by SkepticGreek74
Sorry, I don't mean to be rude but what kind of research are you people doing? It isn't even necessary to go look for these places. A quick yahoo search on S4(on the first page too!) and I already found enough evidence(not proof) to contradict your theories!

Here is some interesting excerpts I found on one site alone:

Lazar described the facility to Timothy Good as being built into the base of the Papoose Range, with 9 hangar doors sloped at about a 60 degree angle. He said the doors had a sand-like texture coating to them, and Gene Huff later said the doors were rollup type doors. There were 9 of the hangar bays in all.


Per Lazar, the disc he described as the "Sport Model" had an approximate diameter of 52'. Allowing for adequate work clearance, it's reasonable to assume a hangar bay would be at least 70' wide. So for 9 bays, the overall length of the facility would have to be at least 630', maybe more.


On the "Billy Goodman Happening" radio show, Lazar described the dirt road the bus took to S-4 as a "good dirt road." When a caller asked him if the facility was underground, he replied, "No, it's not underground; it's just butt up against the side of a little mountain, a little hill kind of, but it's kind of inside the mountain."


Just by reading these 3 exerpts from www.darkgovernment.com... you can see why spotting these buildings would be such a daunting task!

Go on and read the rest of the article as it goes into more details about Bob Lazar and S4!

I also read an article(don't remember where) that Nellis AFB admitted to an S4 complex within its grounds but did not specify it's exact location nor what is being done there! It is NOT at Groom Lake! Groom Lake is under Edwards AFB supervision and therefore if S4 was at groom lake Nellis AFB would NOT know about it! I mentioned this in my previous post but nobody was paying attention!

Thanks!


reply posted on 8-1-2007 @ 02:14 AM by SkepticGreek74
Originally posted by Shadowhawk
I'm not convinced it would be that easy to hide hangar doors at the edge of Papoose Lake. There is not much of a hill there.


Who said the hangar doors have to be located exactly by the lake? Could they not be located a bit further up hillside? Besides, according to Lazar only the hangar doors protude(camoflagued with a sand texture) and the rest of the buildings are built within the hills! Use your imagination a little!


Bob Lazar is not a credible source by any means. Search the Internet for more information on this topis.


I have no way of knowing whether he is credible or not! However, I do find his story very interesting and plausible. Many well known researchers are also willing to give him the benefit of doubt!


The DET 3 SP JOB KNOWLEDGE HANDBOOK for the "Area 51" security force (circa 1988) describes a Weapons Test Range in the Papoose Lake area.


I have not read the manual but assuming what you say is correct they could try to disguise the S-4 facility as the "Weapons Test Range"! If the S-4 facility is ultra secret and off groom lake then it is easy to understand why the cammo dudes would be mislead. The answer is they have no business there!


The only "S-4" on the Nellis Range is Site 4 near Tonopah Test Range. For more information on this, look here:
www.serve.com...


Yeah, I must confess you make a good point here but bear in mind if they really wanna disguise this ultra secret facility they could intentionally try to mislead people by having 2 S-4 facilities. For example, one could be called S-4a and the other S-4b or perhaps S-4 and Site Four. Heck, anything is possible!

Conclusion: I really don't know what to make out of it! As Mahood points out there are both pros and cons and making up your mind either way is very difficult! Mr. Lazar did seem to have a lot of inside information during his interviews so implying that he is a hoaxster is kinda foolish. Why would he MAKE UP such an ELABORATE SCHEME on national television? What would he gain other than a little notoriety and A LOT OF SCORN?! Would you go on tv to get scorned at UNLESS YOU HAD A VERY GOOD REASON TO????
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