Victim of matriarch rule

well, yes if it's for tradition and respect to the marriage, I suppose it says something..
and well, that is a whole 'nother thread on why that is...
I like to dress up on occasion.. but even then the choices I make in clothing would not require an iron.

now comfortable shoes, that is important.. and I hate high heels so that's out.
I wore cowboy boots all through High School. I will never wear them again.
now it's flip flops and sandals, or seagrass is not happy.

Throw off the shackles of your feminist oppressors gentlemen! For far too long us men have been enslaved by the female reproductive organ! I say no more! Feminist Nazis have ruined what is decent and right in society further pushing forth their own sick and twisted agenda.

What is that agenda you say? They would like to tell you it's equality, but no it is simply the mass enslavement of males to feminine rule! Gender rolls have been lopsidedly reversed. Now men are expected to both bring home the bacon AND do all of the housework along with the gender expected tasks.

Feminist oppressors want in men the obedience of a dog along with the benefit of a set of opposable thumbs.

I say cast them off, cast off the yoke of oppression by our feminist dictators!

Wuk... being able to clean up after yourself shows maturity not oppression. It takes a strong man to wear an apron...nurture the home and family..and I suppose iron something...
and an equally strong woman to leave the comforts of home, and go out in the world and get respect for her good work in a man's world.

society oppresses us and we let it... it's all a choice I think.

My mother made me learn as a child. And believe me, it is an art, especially when taught by a Swiss mother that learned the skill in Catholic school. She also insisted on ironing linen and cotton dish towels, and sometimes sheets (saying the heat sterlized, which I suppose is true but so does bleach). Then there are linen tablecloths and napkins...a whole other issue.

Cotton and linen and silk are very wrinkly things, but if you really hate ironing them there are always other fabrics or the cleaners. The cleaners do wash and press shirts fairly cheap.

It is a good thing you learned how, even if you decide to avoid it for the rest of your life.

[edit on 27-12-2008 by Sonya610]

reply to post by whatukno


Wuk,

I have to go along with seagrass...being able to look after/clean up after ones self shows maturity. I mean this male and female both.

I hate having to breast feed people who dont know how to take care of themselves/pick up after themselves but know how to work a telephone keypad, remote controller, and keyboard. I dont as a rule have much use for people male or female who are high speed low drag. Many of them expect others to do the daily work for them while they head for the fast food lane. This once again .male and female both.

I can clean...wash dishes, cook, sew, fix my car and truck etc etc etc.
Dont think much of a man who must depend on a woman for these skills. I do like and appreciate when a woman takes care of this for me..but I also know how to do it myself.
Spent part of today washing sheets...in addition to my shirt for the wedding this evening. Everything went off as planned. I am happy for the newlyweds.

I know to many men who spend to much time living behind Sports Illustrated and the swimsuit edition. Not for me thanks. No worshiping the gods of sports here.

Had male roomates..years ago. Used to irritate the heck out of me the number of guys who cannot hit a target..and leave messes for others to clean up. But they can figure out a point spread in nothing flat. Alot of women are no neater in thier habits and leave messes for others to clean up as well. Both high maintenance as far as I am concerned.

Wearing an apron is no big deal to me. I've been doing it for years now. Happy that both my mother and father taught me to be self sufficient in this arena.
However ...I do cede to most women in one area. Most of them are better at decorating skills than will I ever be. I dont mind asking or leaning on them for this knowledge and advice. It is like radar...they are as a whole much finer tuned than I can ever hope to match.

I do disagree with seagrass on one thing...it is not a man's world. Most men I know are some kind of dumb about this. Most women as well.

Thanks,
Orangetom



[edit on 27-12-2008 by orangetom1999]

Thank you for disagreeing with me OrangeTom.
I respect that. A term I have never liked, but like others I let and choose to be oppressed by the idea.
For me the working world is scary as hell. But I know it isn't men that make it so.
so kudos to you for setting me straight. Now when I get that job.. perhaps I will think of you.

seagrass,

For me the working world is scary as hell. But I know it isn't men that make it so.
so kudos to you for setting me straight. Now when I get that job.. perhaps I will think of you.

You are certainly welcome seagrass.

The working world can indeed be scary as hell.

Dont let life frighten you but so far...then learn from it and rebound...come right back at it.

Also good that you know it is not men who make it that way. You know more here than most women and even men. Good to see it in you.

I dont have much use for the "victim dictum" in males or females. I see alot more men using it now days. It won't wash with me.

Thanks,
Orangetom