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mate thats so petty, if you dont agree with what someone has to say and decide to post then why not offer up some critical objection rather than take a cheap shot at trying to undermine the posters intelligence. Not that you will bother reading this due to my minus points status
Originally posted by blahblah123
reply to post by noobfun
I started reading your post, but then I realized "Why would I listen to someone who can't even spell simple words?!?!"
farthers side
second comming
impossability
realsie
bieng
Try spell check and I might take you more seriously.
my appologise ill relook them up and edit
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Also, I'd like to clarify a few things before I just go: 1. When you quote the bible you should tell us where 5:21 is, and so on.
such is your choice
2. There are only a few sections that I take to heart, one being the Gospel
that isnt a loop hole its a best guess from the evidence available
3. You look to science, and even that video you have posted, and you criticize others for the loopholes in their beliefs, yet you don't look at the major loopholes in science. instead you say, oh they'll figure it out someday
perfection is what is
. 4. I never claimed the bible was wholly accurate, we do all have the potential to act as perfect human beings on earth after Birth, we just dont.
Revelation
Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy.” 12 “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13 “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”
i totally agree
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
haha, yes by grace I mean sincerity or the ability to be humble. I don't know you in real life, obviously, so I guess it was unfair of me to say you have none. You say you need happiness to live happily, yes that's obviously correct, but you can't have happiness if you aren't graceful.
were all imperfect but as long as we try to be better its a good thing
And please, we aren't talking about Jesus here. The grace I'm talking about could just be not showing someone else up, catching your tongue before you insult someone, not talking down to someone, etc. I say you need this to be happy only because it is a sign of a good person, and the knowledge that you are a good person, or are being a good person, is enough to make someone happy with themselves. And you can't be happy if you aren't happy with yourself.
so which is better?
I guess it's probably just me who is sick of all these arguments, and yes I could prove you wrong with facts. But I clearly don't have any and that is the point of believing.
why? they are there to teach facts in the best understanding we have of them
I agree with you, it is asinine for our children to believe in something blindly. People should always look into something thoroughly before they just believe. I think schools should NOT teach Creationism as this isn't 1400 AD. It is similar to saying that we should teach that the Earth is the center of the Universe. However, when we teach a subject like the Big Bang theory, which goes against so many kids beliefs, the teacher should also be obliged to say, "Hey, this doesn't mean that there is no God, nor does it mean that there is.
but science never says there was a nothing
Science is still struggling to answer how those initial (what were they Protons and Electrons?) developed because energy cannot be created from nothing.
they are hypothesies as they are unproven
And while there are theories, whether it be God or whatever,
and long may they continue
nothing has a definite answer yet, and we are still searching.
personally i wish no child was taught religeon while a child, give them the chance to understand the alternaties before one is picked for them purley on the basis of location(yes i really do mean this a child born in america the chances favour christianity, in isreal judaism, india hinduism, saudi islam for one true gods they seem to be area reliant in thier followers)
" This way you don't eliminate God in some kids minds who refuse to look further into it,
teach children or anyone for that matter that ignorance is better in the fear of possably offending thier parents .. i could never agree to that sorry
and we offer an alternative belief system for those kids who want to strictly believe in creationism.
and now you see why there i say there is always a point
Plus, the majority who fall in between, can look up the information themselves. Maybe you disagree, but that's just how I feel.
Originally posted by noobfun
i deplore the thought of someone beleiving what they are told simply becasue they are told it, to revel in ignorance is such a waste of the talents we have and we can frankly do better
go ad hominims ... your speciality
Originally posted by Simplynoone
Dearest Noob ...I would say that if a person cannot spell properly (they are not able to comprehend spelling that well) then they may not be comprehending reading properly either...which means you could be showing yourself to not be as smart as you may think you are ...has that ever once occured to you ?
why waste time with spellings and correction it only slows me down
I would think that an intellegent being such as yourself would at least be able to understand that much ...and spelling ought to be a whiz for someone who claims to read as much as you do ..*That is how I learned how to spell was by reading alot ..............
first time for everything i guess
PS ..this isnt meant as a cut down ..
which it doesnt unless you wish to ignore the post and are looking for an excuse
just a reply to your question about you not thinking it should matter if you can spell or not .
i didnt need to think them out i just found them from where i knew them to be
And if you thought out the bible readings so well as you say you did ..you sure did not think out your spelling and grammer very good in your posts ..see where I am going with this ?
but if they are bieng taught not to look and it is wrong then how will they?
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Those who wish to find the way will.
the fact he spoke it or even existed has yet to be proven,
To turn someone away from he that delivered the command to Love God with all your heart and all your soul...under what authority does he speak?
that we ALL should learn to get along and not let our books get in the way and learn to actually like each other would be enough
To turn someone away from he that delivered the next command that is like the first, That we love one another. What person would deny that?
and those that speak of god as 100% proven do not speak the truth just of a belief they hold
Those that deny God and speak as though they know the Truth, truly do not know in total 100% confidence.
belief breeds evidence of belief as the aying goes
Those that have experienced God, in the many facets that he may reveal himself,
oo is that a sneaky dig i see?
know that the non believers are full of opinion and mindless chatter, and will be forever searching, but never knowing.
couldnt agree more it would be nice to hav some more of it scattered around
Peace
Originally posted by Ryanp5555
I disagree with alot of what you said, but I don't want to go any further with this. Have a good day.
or we could be here spreading the reality of truth and logic
Originally posted by Simplynoone
Which is why I believe they have so many anti posts going here at ATS ..lol ..
If they were 100 % convinced they would be moving on to try and figure out other things they are not 100 % convinced on
it would be boring if we all sat around agreeing with each other i agree
.....they would bore easily in these threads .........because they would not be such a challenge to them then ...
Originally posted by noobfun
Or we could be here spreading the reality of truth and logic
not the unreality of faith
[edit on 29/11/08 by noobfun]
we have no gospel or religeon we have no need for either
Originally posted by Simplynoone
Aw so you admit that your preaching your gospel to the world and fishing for converts .....hmm wonder who that sounds like ...lol a religion eh ?
hahha this is so feeble id expect more from you simply
Preaching
Middle English prechen, from Anglo-French precher, from Late Latin praedicare, from Latin, to proclaim, make known, from prae- pre- + dicare to proclaim — more at diction
Date:
13th century
intransitive verb1: to deliver a sermon2: to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action ; specifically : to exhort in an officious or tiresome mannertransitive verb1: to set forth in a sermon 2: to advocate earnestly 3: to deliver (as a sermon) publicly4: to bring, put, or affect by preaching
Oops another Ad-homin ...sorry ...
I am just trying to get you to be honest with yourself Noob ..
Incest seemed to work out ok for Adam and Eve... What went wrong? I mean Eve was essentially a child of Adam, being made from him. We all know how far humanity would have gotten with no incest after Adam and Eve got busy... so.. Well... It seems there is a big problem here. I dont recall Adam and Eve being married either.. Hussy.
Originally posted by reject
here's a book that was arguably started to be written some 4,000 years ago.
At its heart was the concept of a God that forbade (among other things):
- fornication (perverse sex) & promiscuosity
- eating of blood & strangled beasts that weren't thoroughly bled
- incestual relationships
science later bears out that:
4,000 years ago...before man had any notions about pathogens, stress hormones, and genomes something or someone was making sure we don't screw ourselves too much...
- leads to STDs that could be life threatening
- as an animal is killed it releases stress chemicals into its blood that are toxic and that the majority of pathogens are in it
- leads to abnormalities
I know, I'm a simple person but doesn't this just make you wonder?