reply to post by noobfun
I've been visiting ATS off and on for several years, lots of interesting topics. But the topic of God vs. no God intrigues me the most.
I am a Christian and I hate seeing "believers" getting beat down by some of the intellectuals here.
This post is not directed to all non-believers, just the ones who ridicule,mock and are just nasty.You know who you are.
You use big words and science, facts and quotes to establish your viewpoint. You are full of knowledge and wisdom. You are intelligent and possess
great writing skills. You can look up facts to support your therories. You have the awnswers to most everything. You indeed have great human
However, you have no faith and no understanding of God's wisdom.
I understand all this, we need science, physics, knowledge and wisdom. It has made us who we are. Humans now have more knowledge than we ever had
God has given us the tools to become successful, that is what he wants. But He did not want us to forget Him.
Your mistake is relying on flawed human wisdom over God's infinite wisdom.
Using your earthly wisdom, your famous quote is "show me the proof/evidence". Well guess what ? If there was absolute proof it wouldn't be a faith
based religion would it. You ask for something we don't have, so you win every time, right ? Wrong !
Your earthly logic and wisdom cannot except somethihg without cold hard facts. Christians do not need evidence to believe. Lets face it, we are
I have a few tidbits of information concerning knowledge and wisdom for you from the most published Book on the planet. Yes, you know what Book I'm
talking about !
"For the foolishness of God is wiser than man's wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than man's strength." (I Corinthian 1:25)
In other words, If you take the wisest man who ever lived, his knowledge would be foolishness to God.
Does that impress you ? Do you feel a little inadequate? Where do you fit in when compared to the wisest man that ever lived ?
For all you intellectual non-believers this means all, I repeat ,all of your feeble attemps to dis-credit or dismiss the Word of God is foolishness,
you can't do it !
Although, I'm sure you will continue to try. I will have something to say about that later.
Do you think your earthly facts and science can compare to God's infinite wisdom. He created the universe/multiverse ! What have you created ?
Even Albert Einstein recognized the impossibility of a non-created universe. Ah, but the intellectuals who post on this board are smarter than
Einstein, aren't you ?
"There is no wisdom, no insight, no plan that can succeed against the Lord." (Proverbs 21:30)
Intellectual non-believers can post on message boards, place ads in newspapers, pay for TV/radio time etc. They are wasting their time, nothing they
can do or say will discourage true believers.
If their point is not to discourage believers, then why do they do it ? Maybe they want to impress us with their knowledge. They indeed know much
about worldly things, but what about things beyond our planet ? For example, what do they know about the afterlife ?
Christian's know much about the afterlife, all they have is one Book.
"Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?" (I Corinthian
Which one you you intellectuals is the next Einstein ? How many books have you published ? How many magazine articles have you written ? All of your
talking down to those who may not be as intellectually gifted as you is demeaning. Do you get enjoyment from this ? Does it make you feel big and
You seem to get some kind of thrill by picking apart posts that do not agree with your thinking.
"Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor
bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. Such 'wisdom' does not come down from heaven but is
earthly, unspiritual, of the devil." (James 3:13-15) I have read several posts here directed toward Christians that seem to be bitter and hateful.
Once they have degraded someones faith, they ridicule and brag (boast) about how smart they are.
Wow, the Bible certainly is insightful, it seems to have a passage for everything.
"The wise will be put to shame; they will be dismayed and trapped. Since they have rejected the word of the Lord, what kind of wisdom do they have?"
True wisdom comes from the Lord. If a person posesses great worldly wisdom, what does he gain. In the end, it will be death. On the other hand, if a
person possesses great wisdom from the Lord, what does this man gain ? Life in paradise ! To me, it's a no-brainer !
"The way of a fool seems right to him, but a wise man listens to advice." (Proverbs 12:15)
This applies to many here. You are right !!! You have the earthly facts and science to prove it. Who would dare argue with you in face of all your
earthly facts ? Guess what ? I would wager that God doesn't care about your earthly facts near as much as you do. I'm sure He could take them or
Seems to me that a wise man would take advice, its just common sence.
"When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom." (Proverbs 11:2) I can also tell from reading alot of the posts here, that
some of you are very proud of your accompishments. You can't wait to come here and degrade someones faith and hope. Read the above passage, Disgrace
is what you can expect. Plus, its not very nice !
"For wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men, from men whose words are perverse." (Proverbs 2:12) Man is inherently wicked. The old saying
is true "Its hard to be good, it's easy to be bad". It takes God's wisdom and lots of human effort to always do the right thing. You do not have
to know the Lord as your personal Savior to do good things, but it
helps. We all know good deeds will not get you into Heaven. There is only one way to enter Heaven. You must accept Jesus Christ as your personel
Savior to be admitted into the Kingdom of Heaven, it is the only way.
I am not trying to shove my beliefs down anyones throat. I am merely defending the attacks on my faith.
Forcing yours beliefs on someone is wrong. The correct way is to simply tell people about your faith....... plant a seed. Once a person has heard the
Word, it's up to them how they respond to it.
As I promised, I will leave you with one last thought, the very fact that you are on this board putting down Christians is fulfilling prophetsy.
You see, it states in (2Thess 2:1,3) that in the end times there will be a great "falling away" from the Faith.
When you post here, denying God, you are actually part of the "falling away". The Bible said this would happen.
Thanyou for fulfilling the Word of God.