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Topic started on 26-11-2008 @ 06:42 PM by pause4thought

Barack Obama plans 20,000 troop surge to boost Afghan effort


w ww.telegraph.co.uk
Barack Obama is preparing to send at least 20,000 more US soldiers into Afghanistan in a "surge" similar to the deployment that contributed to security improvements in Iraq.

The President-Elect's intention to shift the focus of the fight against terrorism to Afghanistan has been bolstered by Robert Gates agreement to stay on as Defence Secretary.

Mr Gates is a strong believer in an Afghan surge... It would also aim to boost co-operation with Iran and Pakistan...
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reply posted on 26-11-2008 @ 06:42 PM by pause4thought
Is this perhaps what should have been the focus immediately post 9/11?

This significant new policy is apparently being planned for Spring 2009:

The Pentagon chief, who has been in the position for two years, added that he wanted to send another three brigades of combat ground forces and an aviation brigade, beginning as early as next spring.

A Pentagon official said the plans are likely to be drawn up before Mr Obama takes office on Jan 20. Most will be sent to the poppy-growing South, where the need for more Western forces is greatest, and where 8,000 British troops are currently fighting.

A spokesman said the final number was likely to be "well north of 20,000", and indicated that countries such as Britain already fighting in the south would not face strong US demands to provide more troops.


If you think the numbers involved are large, read on:

Some analysts believe Washington ultimately will need more than 100,000 troops to stabilise Afghanistan before the Afghan army is ready to take over security.

"I suspect that to succeed in Afghanistan, we're eventually going to have to swing a sizeable fraction of what we now have in Iraq into Afghanistan," said Stephen Biddle of the Council on Foreign Relations.

"The scale of the shift will be large, and the time needed to pull it off will be long," he said.


Perhaps a gradual withdrawal from Iraq is not going to provide relief for the hard-pressed troops after all.

How will the American public react if war is also going to be a distinguishing mark of the next presidency?

And will this new focus change world opinion on what the US is about when it comes to foreign policy?






w ww.telegraph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 04:08 PM by pause4thought
reply to post by Moonsouljah




Hi there. I hear what you're saying about the MI complex, but I'm no Obama sheeple (singular ). I don't even live in the US. I'm just an inhabitant of this planet who believes diplomacy has been dropped in recent years in favour of the bullet (-and look at the mess it's got us into).

Obama being an intelligent and articulate communicator, was, I hoped, a prime candidate to wing the changes in the geopolitical sphere. (Jaw, jaw & not war, war - and all that.)

Is it really just 'more of the same'?

Even if not, I'll still keep hoping some future leader has the stature to follow sanity rather than military $s...




[edit on 3/12/08 by pause4thought]


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 04:12 PM by pause4thought
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I think they're supposed to come from the Iraq pull-out. (I foresee some rather unhappy soldiers...)

Not too sure how they'd go about working this kind of force up, though! -

Some analysts believe Washington ultimately will need more than 100,000 troops to stabilise Afghanistan before the Afghan army is ready to take over security.




reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 04:20 PM by Moonsouljah
reply to post by pause4thought



Yeah, I hear ya. I "hope" he turns some things around but my skepticism prevails thus far. We have 4 years to sit back and watch though. I just fear him to be the mother of all dupes. Like if your best friend slept with your lover instead of some random person-the betrayal would be so much worse.


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 04:25 PM by Moonsouljah
reply to post by dodgygeeza


I swear it's all the fluoride in the water or something like that. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
The bulk of Americans are like cows- just chewing and farting and their skulls are so thick you can hit 'em in the head with shovels.-just keep eatin' and fartin' and eatin'...


reply posted on 3-12-2008 @ 04:30 PM by dodgygeeza
Originally posted by Moonsouljah
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I swear it's all the fluoride in the water or something like that. It's the only thing that makes sense to me.
The bulk of Americans are like cows- just chewing and farting and their skulls are so thick you can hit 'em in the head with shovels.-just keep eatin' and fartin' and eatin'...




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