It has been endlessly discussed that there is a school of thought that the universe at eventually will start to retract towards the point of the original singularity. Further to this it has also been suggested that it has already happened many times.

My thought on this is pretty simple and possibly over simplified, but that is how my mind works.

Basically, if there was an originating Big Bang and all the matter was flung out into the cosmos, there would be little to no matter left at the origin point, therefore nothing to generate any kind of gravity in order for everything to be drawn back together.

Any thoughts? Is this a reasonable theory?

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well the contracting universe is the old theory ,it has been replaced by the recent discovery that the universe is expanding like a loaf of bread ,in other words there are empty voids of expanding nothingness in that are themselves expanding making exponentially even more nothing

so the universe is just going to expand itself to death

Gravity is the weakest of the forces that interact in the universe

they are Electro Magnetism ,Strong Nuclear Weak Nuclear and Gravity,

There is not enough matter /mas /therefore gravity to hold the universe together

At least that's what I heard

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No one really has the faintest clue if the universe expands infinitely, expands indefinitely but within a finite space, or if it contracts. They guess at matter they have not directly in any way observed, and maybe this new accelerator will get us closer, and maybe it won't.

We don't really know all that much about gravity in comparison to the other forces. My theory is that gravity is a dynamic variable whose strength depends on the current amount of distance between the parts of the whole (Raisin Bun Model). I propose gravity and the Casimir forces are 2 sides of the same coin, gravity prevents the universe's ever expanding drift into oblivion and the Casimir forces prevent the universe from ever achieving a singularity, starting the process again with an explosive big bang.

RINSE & REPEAT AD NAUSEUM INFINITUM

Peace,

The Don

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sorry m8, you're in over your head. 'simple' and cosmological physics don't blend. I'm interested in the subj., but by no means an expert. But one flaw with your central premise is the notion of a centre that stuff kinda flew out of. its a common fallacy.

the whole universe is the centre. it wasn't so much that 'stuff' flew out froma central point in space into other space, it was space (and time, confusingly) itself that expanded.

i could go on but won't because i'll doubtless get wrapped up in riddles and get important stuff wrong.

Originally posted by VIKINGANT
It has been endlessly discussed that there is a school of thought that the universe at eventually will start to retract towards the point of the original singularity. Further to this it has also been suggested that it has already happened many times.

My thought on this is pretty simple and possibly over simplified, but that is how my mind works.

Basically, if there was an originating Big Bang and all the matter was flung out into the cosmos, there would be little to no matter left at the origin point, therefore nothing to generate any kind of gravity in order for everything to be drawn back together.

Any thoughts? Is this a reasonable theory?

where does it say that the crunch has to ocurr at the exat same point that the bang originated?

imagine it from a different perspective...

where the bang is the initial point of chaos.. where all matter is unconscious..
and eventually over googolplex "years".. or however "long" (if time even stays at the "standard" we now conceptualize it at...that over that "time".. all matter eventually falls into "order" .. or "organizes" itself .. into patterns which allow it to be conscious..

so eventually all matter becomes conscious.. or "part" of a conscious organization..
through life..

and all "souls" eventually merge into one godhead.. and become one again.. order out of chaos..
and become more and more like their creator..
then once all is one.. it can all explode again in order to experience more in a new cycle of existence.. with more possibilities..possibilities that weren't experienced last time...

click my sig link for more info...

.......waiting to see what happens with the Hadron Collider!........

Gravity may seem weak, but comes questions like what is speed of gravity.
Having Hawkings make up Hawkings Rays to support his open universe theory.
I see as closed unverse with infinite bangs occuring, in Gita says Rama exhale Rama inhale. It needs to be understood that in the hole time frame picture of this occurance, we are only in first micro seconds of bang, this has just happened. It will take time for gravity to regain control.

I don't see this taking a googol of years but maybe only 10s of trillions, I could also see by that time a sort of clean up crew formed to help prepair for next bang.

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Yes I heard they had black hole problem, don't tell anyone. If they are unable to stop it will eat entire universe.

Yes if can't fix we will be center of big crunch, if they can stop it heard they might change it into one of those solent Green facilities. All they need few good Gama burst add a good starter and wala solent green.