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reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 06:42 PM by Anonymous ATS
Snopes has info showing it's a FALSE RUMOR!

www.snopes.com...

Just because someone with access to the internets wrote something on a blog they made, doesn't mean it's true.



reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 07:28 PM by TrainDispatcher
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Snopes has info showing it's a FALSE RUMOR!

www.snopes.com...

Just because someone with access to the internets wrote something on a blog they made, doesn't mean it's true.


I did not claim anything about Bill Ayers....
All you did was just point to snopes in which that asked if Obama would be denied security clearance becuase of association with ayers.
The response was no.

There are other issues


[edit on 18-11-2008 by TrainDispatcher]



reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 07:51 PM by Maxmars
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Snopes has info showing it's a FALSE RUMOR!

www.snopes.com...

Just because someone with access to the internets wrote something on a blog they made, doesn't mean it's true.



The major points in the reports allege:

* Obama has been in the middle of two international communist networks – one in Hawaii and one in Chicago.
* The Hawaii network included communists Frank Marshall Davis, who was Obama’s personal mentor; actor/singer Paul Robeson; and labor leader Harry Bridges. The network was judged a security threat to the United States and the subject of a congressional hearing on the “Scope of Soviet Activity in the United States.”
* Obama covered up the true identity of Frank Marshall Davis in his book, Dreams From My Father.
* The Hawaii communist network was organized directly by and from Moscow.
* The Chicago network included identified communists and socialists, was committed to a communist victory in the Vietnam War, and took instructions from the communist Castro regime in Cuba.
* In addition to communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who were members of the communist terrorist Weather Underground, the Chicago network includes many veterans of the communist Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) who now proclaim themselves “Progressives for Obama.”
* Bill Ayers, who helped launch Obama’s political career, has traveled to Venezuela on several occasions and is an enthusiastic backer of the brand of communism being practiced and promoted by Hugo Chavez.
* It appears that Obama actually worked for Ayers in a Chicago educational reform program that dispensed millions of dollars of grants.
* One of the leaders of “Progressives for Obama” is former SDS leader Tom Hayden, who wrote a letter to a communist Vietnamese official during the Vietnam War hoping for a “victory” over the U.S.
* The SDS openly promoted communism, the regimes in Hanoi and Havana, and condemned alleged U.S. “imperialism.”
* The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), a group that included a convicted espionage agent for communist East Germany, backed and promoted Obama’s political career.
* Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer, who picked Obama as her successor, has a record of involvement in communist front activities.
* Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod, as well as Obama himself, have not explained why Ayers, Dohrn, then-State Senator Alice Palmer, and Dr. Quentin Young came together at the Ayers/Dohrn home to launch Obama’s political career.
* Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, a client of Axelrod, issued a controversial and misleading statement defending Obama’s relationship with communist terrorist Bill Ayers.

Herbert Romerstein served as an investigator or staff member for the U. S. House Committee on Un‑American Activities, the House Committee on Internal Security, and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He was head of the Office to Counter Soviet Disinformation for the United States Information Agency.


I'd say SNOPES needs to tighten its report up. These credentials are not 'trivial'.

I got a security clearance ... it was no joking matter; and I agree that such an issue should have surfaced MUCH sooner. If ANY of these reported concerns are true, he CAN'T qualify for a clearance. Suddenly he's too 'special'? We need to make a special rule so he can be trusted with information and access?

Either way this turns out, true or not; a President MUST 'clear' (pun intended) this hurdle just as every other has done before him (presumably). This isn't kindergarten. We are not 'sharing' here, this is our NATION. Why should the rules be different for Mr. Obama than anyone else?


reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 11:18 PM by OuttaHere
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
I predict we will never see the end of these, yet his Presidency will continue on without a hitch.


I genuinely hope and pray you are right. I would love to see the U.S. turn around, I would love to see us go into a period of unprecedented prosperity. I pray that we find a way to have peace with all of the nations who hate us. I would love for Obama to accomplish some real successes, both at home and in foreign relations, and go down in history as one of the greatest presidents who ever lived. Especially I would love to see him have a successful presidency and see the black people of America having a new hero and example to look up to. I hope that Obama unites the races, drawing Americans closer as a community without prejudice. I am certainly proud of the fact that America has come to a point where we can elect a black president, even if I oppose his ideology and I did not vote for him. (If he was a conservative I would have.)

I would love to see all that happen.

However, I don't believe it will happen. I think that the rising power of the Illuminati has gone too far to be stopped and no matter how good Obama's intentions might be, he is not going to be able to fix what is happening. I think he is naive and idealistic (even if I disagree with his ideology I do not ascribe evil motives to him). I believe not that he intends any harm; instead I believe he is only a pawn for powers he cannot understand.

The idea that they might now choose not to brief him on matters of national security just reinforces that the Illuminati - and not the POTUS, whoever he might be - are running the show.

Again I hope the security clearance thing is not true. It would be a disaster.



reply posted on 18-11-2008 @ 11:34 PM by jitombe
reply to post by TrainDispatcher



What a cheap publicity stunt, that's all it is. The ass clown we still have in office was a drug addict and an alcoholic, then he found god and blah blah blah. I'm ok with Obama taking drugs in his past and no problem if he hangs with domestic terrorists. There may be one or two folks on this site that are slightly anti govt for hundreds of different reasons.
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