This is a must know. Scary re-education camps?

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So a sadisticwomen doesn't believe me, oh well. The point is i find most who support this and think it's a good idea are currently doing nothing themselves and like many Obama backers fully support others doing or being forced to do things that they themselves would not want to do.

I.E. i believe the number is like 70% of those who pay no taxes support higher taxes. Have me give is OK, but those taking don't want to. Maybe thats why a flat tax would never pass.

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

Originally posted by Gunsron
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p.s. I am sick of being called out by illiterates.

Come on angel i think your above that? I'm a horrible speller too, so please be nice.

Anotherdad, If I may let me give you the start of this entire conspiracy as it began in our country. It has roots in other countries before ours but for simplicity sake, I'll start with the US. I can provide a thumbnail sketch of my references both modern and older in another post.

“One particular quote that comes to mind is the following- World War I provided an unparalleled opportunity for the richest families to grab exorbitant profits at the expense of the public and, without exception, they made the most of the is opportunity. The rich families, to be sure, wanted the war to be won, but the took care that the victory was expensive to the common taxpayers.” 1 Ferdinand Lundberg

1760 - Satanic plot was launched when it first came into existence under the name "Illuminati." This Illuminati was organized by one Adam Weishaupt, born a Jew, who was converted to Catholicism and studied to be a Catholic priest, and then, at the behest of the then newly organized House of Rothschild, defected and organized the Illuminati. Naturally, the Rothschilds financed that operation and every war since then, beginning with the French Revolution, has been promoted by the Illuminati operating under various names and guises.

1770 - Professional money lenders, and recently organized House of Rothschild, retained Weishaupt, to revise and modernize the age-old Protocols of Zionism, which from the outset, was designed to give the Synagogue of Satan, so named by Jesus Christ, ultimate world domination so they could impose the Luciferian ideology upon what would remain of the human race after the final social cataclysm by use of satanic despotism.

1 May 1776 - Illuminati, allegedly - (Adam Weishaupt-Founder, Jesuit Priest and Freemason) Illuminati name translated to "bearers of the light" - Lumen
derived from Lucifer, ancient "angel of light". Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit-trained professor of canon law, teaching in Engelstock University, when he defected from Christianity to embrace the luciferian conspiracy.

Weishaupt completed his task May 1, 1776. Now you know why May 1 is the great day with all communist nations to this very day (May 1 is also "Law Day" as declared by the American Bar Association). That was the day, May 1, 1776, that Weishaupt completed his plan and officially organized the Illuminati to put the plan into execution. That plan required the destruction of all existing governments and religions. That objective was to be reached by dividing the masses of people, whom he Weishaupt, termed: "goyism" or human cattle into opposing camps in ever increasing numbers on political, social, economic, and other issues - the very conditions we have in our country today.

The opposing sides were then to be armed and incidents provided which would cause them to fight and weaken themselves and gradually destroy national governments and religious institutions. This being a prime feature of the Illuminati plans. When and if their blueprint for world control, the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion, is discovered and exposed, they would wipe all the Jews off the face of the earth in order to divert suspicions from themselves.

NOTE: If you think this is far fetched, bear in mind that they permitted Hitler, a liberal socialist himself, who was financed by corrupt Kennedy, the Warburgs, and the Rothschilds, to incinerate 6,000,000 Jews.

Now just why did the conspirators choose the word: "Illuminati" for their satanic organization? Weishaupt himself said that the word is derived from Lucifer and means: "holder of the light." Using the lie that his objective was to bring about a one-world government to enable those with mental ability to govern the world and prevent all wars in the future.

In short, using the words: "peace on earth" as his bait, exactly as that same bait as: "peace" was used by the 1945 conspirators to force the United Nations on us, Weishaupt was financed, as said before, by the Rothschilds, recruited some 2,000 paid followers. These included the most intelligent men in the field of arts and letters, education, the sciences, finance, and industry.

1798 John Robison warned all Masonic leaders in America that the Illuminati had infiltrated into their lodges and on July 19, 1789; David Papen, President of Harvard University, issued the same warning to the graduating-class and lectured them on how the influence of Illuminism was acquitting on American politics and religion, and to top it off; John Quincy Adams, who had organized the New England Masonic Lodges, issued his warnings. He wrote three letters to Colonel William L. Stone, a top Mason, in which he exposed how Jefferson was using Masonic lodges for subversive Illuministic purposes. Those three letters are at this very time in Whittenburg Square Library in Philadelphia. In short; Jefferson, founder of the Democratic Party, was a member of the Illuminati which at least partly accounts for the condition of the party at this time and through infiltration of the Republican Party; we have exactly nothing of loyal Americanism today

1812 - Mayer Amschel dies, will sets up the "house of Rothchild" and family laws for their business to operate by.

1815 - Rothchilds trick British stock markets as the "battle of Waterloo" concludes and vastly multiply their fortunes. One branch of the Rothschild family had financed Napoleon; another branch of the Rothschilds financed Britain, Germany, and the other nations in the Napoleonic wars.

Immediately after the Napoleonic wars, the Illuminati assumed that all the nations were so destitute and so weary of wars that they'd be glad for any solution, so the Rothschild stooges set up what they called the Congress of Vienna and at that meeting they tried to create the first League of Nations, their first attempted one-world government, on the theory that all the crowned heads of European governments were so deeply in debt to them that they would willingly or unwillingly serve as their stooges.

But the Czar of Russia caught the stench of the plot and completely torpedoed it. The enraged Nathan Rothschild, then the head of the dynasty, vowed that some day he or his descendants would destroy the Czar and his entire family, and his descendants did accomplish that very threat in 1917.

That disastrous rebuff at the Congress of Vienna created by the Czar of Russia, Alexander I, did not by any means destroy the Illuminati conspiracy. It merely forced them to adopt a new strategy realizing that the one-world idea was, for the moment, killed. The Rothschild's decided that to keep the plot alive they would have to do it by heightening their control of the money system of the European nations.
Earlier; by a ruse the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo had been falsified, Rothschild had spread a story that Napoleon had one bad battle which precipitated a terrific panic on the stock market in England. All stocks had plummeted down to practically zero and Nathan Rothschild bought all the stocks for virtually a penny on its dollar values.
That gave him complete control of the economy of Britain and virtually of all Europe. So immediately after that Congress in Vienna had boomeranged; Rothschild had forced Britain to set up a new "Bank of England" which he had absolute control exactly, as later through Jacob Schiff; he engineered our own "Federal Reserve Act" which gave the House of Rothschild a secret control of the economy in the United States.

1826 - One Captain William Morgan decided it was his duty to inform all Masons and the general public what the full proof was regarding the Illuminati, their secret plans, intended objectives, and to reveal the identities of the masterminds of the conspiracy. The Illuminati promptly tried Morgan in absentia and convicted him of treason.
They ordered one Richard Howard, an English Illuminist, to carry out their sentence of execution as a traitor. Morgan was warned and he tried to escape to Canada, but Howard caught up with him near the border; near the Niagara Gorge to be exact, where he murdered him. This was verified in a sworn statement made in New York by one Avery Allen to the effect that he heard Howard render his report of the execution to a meeting of "Knights Templers" in St. John's Hall in New York. He also told how arrangements had been made to ship Howard back to England.

That Allen affidavit is on record in New York City Archives. Very few Masons and very few of the general public know that general disapproval over that incident of murder caused approximately half of all the Masons in the northern jurisdiction of the United States to secede. Copies of the minutes of the meeting held to discuss that matter are still in existence in safe hands and that all that secrecy emphasizes the power of the masterminds of the Illuminati to prevent such terrible events of history from being taught in our schools.

That disastrous rebuff at the Congress of Vienna created by the Czar of Russia, Alexander I, did not by any means destroy the Illuminati conspiracy. It merely forced them to adopt a new strategy realizing that the one-world idea was, for the moment, killed. The Rothschild's decided that to keep the plot alive they would have to do it by heightening their control of the money system of the European nations.

Earlier; by a ruse the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo had been falsified, Rothschild had spread a story that Napoleon had one bad battle which precipitated a terrific panic on the stock market in England. All stocks had plummeted down to practically zero and Nathan Rothschild bought all the stocks for virtually a penny on its dollar values.

That gave him complete control of the economy of Britain and virtually of all Europe. So immediately after that Congress in Vienna had boomeranged; Rothschild had forced Britain to set up a new "Bank of England" which he had absolute control exactly, as later through Jacob Schiff; he engineered our own "Federal Reserve Act" which gave the House of Rothschild a secret control of the economy in the United States.

1826 - One Captain William Morgan decided it was his duty to inform all Masons and the general public what the full proof was regarding the Illuminati, their secret plans, intended objectives, and to reveal the identities of the masterminds of the conspiracy. The Illuminati promptly tried Morgan in absentia and convicted him of treason.

They ordered one Richard Howard, an English Illuminist, to carry out their sentence of execution as a traitor. Morgan was warned and he tried to escape to Canada, but Howard caught up with him near the border; near the Niagara Gorge to be exact, where he murdered him. This was verified in a sworn statement made in New York by one Avery Allen to the effect that he heard Howard render his report of the execution to a meeting of "Knights Templers" in St. John's Hall in New York. He also told how arrangements had been made to ship Howard back to England.

That Allen affidavit is on record in New York City Archives. Very few Masons and very few of the general public know that general disapproval over that incident of murder caused approximately half of all the Masons in the northern jurisdiction of the United States to secede. Copies of the minutes of the meeting held to discuss that matter are still in existence in safe hands and that all that secrecy emphasizes the power of the masterminds of the Illuminati to prevent such terrible events of history from being taught in our schools.


[edit on 21-11-2008 by tgambill]

I will provide a quote that the History Channel won't put out on TV.....about what FDR said in a closed meeting........

March 4, 1939 - Quote from a report of the secret committee by President Roosevelt,;

“I am making no concessions to business, or for relief. I have a military machine sufficient to stop any organized revolt. I am putting MY PEOPLE ahead of all instruments. I’ll have had a full understanding with Chamberlain, and we will destroy this unemployed condition with a WAR, and a WAR only. To Hell with the American people, as far as a Democracy is concerned. It does not exist. It never did, and we will never let it happen that way. I am going to crush business, infest America with all the aliens possible, and in the last analysis, declare Martial Law, and confiscate everything I need for a true and forceful Dictatorship. My New Deal is a failure, and I know it, but no one else will tell me that I must discontinue my present activities, and program.” From the Secret Audience with the Military Appropriation Committee; The Ways and Means Committee; The Special War Finance Committee; and this copy was presented to me by mail through Senator Lundeen.” “The Red Fog Over America” by William Guy Carr, 1955.

In 1841 Clinton Roosevelt published in America “The Science of Government Founded on Natural Laws”, This was nothing more than a plagiarized version of the teachings of Professor Adam Weishaupt of Frankfort University, Germany, the renegade Jesuit priest who arranged for the agenteur of the Illuminati to infiltrate into French Freemasonary in 1776 so “The Secret Power” which directed the World Revolutionary Movement, and the Conspiracy of Satan, at that time could use Freemasonsary to further their secret plans and ambitious and at the same time cloak their diabolitical purpose.

The fact that FDR’s New Deal, his NRA, and other political policies and economic devices fitted perfectly into the “Long Range Plans”, of the Illuminati proved the continuity of the conspiracy from 1841 to 1945. It has been explained that Roosevelt made known his secret plans to establish a dictatorship in American in March 1939 when he gave a secret audience to some of his governments special committee. It has also been mentioned that Roosevelt was kept a virtual prisoner from after Yalta until his death presumably to prevent him telling the truth in the event his conscience troubled him when he realized that he was about to meet his maker.

what's so scary about doing public service? here in canada, every middle school and high school child must do from 25 to 50 hrs volunteer work in order to graduate.

it goes towards making a huge difference in how children view society - not just as something that you take from, but gives a view on how you can give back.

Originally posted by Gunsron

Originally posted by Isispriest
"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what can you do for your country" JFK


Yeah now there is a fascist statement (NOT).

Nothing wrong with making high schoolers do some community service. The education system needs to be more practical and prepare young people for actual jobs.

[edit on 21-11-2008 by Isispriest]

JFK didnt say that our country needed to tell us what to do, but that we ourselves needed to find ways to better our country. Obama's plan isnt calling for just high-schoolers (which my highschool already requires but i have tripple the time ill need by my senior year already), but for collage students as well, and he has spoke about even those who are not attending collage being required to as well. Someone also mentioned senior citizens haveing to do it as well?

I did some research, and found that he was wanting people to VOLUNTEER. He was not at all asking for law abideing citizens to be forced by the government to do free labor..... So your right, it wasnt Facist

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

What makes ya feel stupider? Getting lied to by Bill Clintion or by George Bush.

I for one would rather not be lied to by either one of them.... Conforming to the fact that your being lied to does not help make things better.
We have to call for trueth, and justice and call canidates from both side's out on their lies... Not just make our dicisions based on who is smarter with their word or who lied better...


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[edit on 22-11-2008 by Gemwolf]

The lies go back at least to Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and the rest except later in his administration JFK, who was killed when he was going to expose the conspiracy that we are dealing with now. Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr, and now Obama all work together for this conspiracy that they think will make up the one world government. Evidence is overwhelming. Long story short.

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www.fdrs.org...

tells all.................

Can we stay on topic please.

This is a must know. Scary re-education camps?

Originally posted by Gemwolf
Can we stay on topic please.

This is a must know. Scary re-education camps?

Could you add to this that you probably should refrain from personal attacks?

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Can we move along please.

[edit on 22-11-2008 by Gemwolf]

Sorry about that. I will say however that this is the same subject matter. The Conspiracy encompasses the reeducation camps, Global warming, CFR, New World Order......I've studied this for years and lived it in the middle, while in Kosovo the CFR, Bilderbergers and other thinktanks control all this for a purpose. People are not connecting the dots to the connections these people have made. The MK Ultra, Jesus Camps and Obamas Civiliam Security force are all connected.....