new! and banned nasa video - ufo fleet

i say new because its not the usual ones we are shown
im not sure of the date
it shows a nasa shuttle
being SWAMPED WITH DOZENS OF UFOS
you seem them observing, hovering or SHOOTING OFF..
there is no way on earth a skeptic can deny this as dust or `weather balloons



give it up skeptics
games over
its not cool anymore to deny what is painfully obvious!

Each OOI (Object Of Interest) appears to maintain a constant speed and trajectory.

Sorry - I'm going to have to go with ice particles/space junk.

It looks like debris coming from the detachment to me. I think the message might go over better with less profanity as well, but that is just me.

None of the little floaties seemed to have any sort of intelligence to them. I think the "tether" video is a better example of this sort of thing. Whatever it is floating around in that video sure seems to be doing it with some sort of purpose.

Originally posted by TXRabbit
Each OOI (Object Of Interest) appears to maintain a constant speed and trajectory.

Sorry - I'm going to have to go with ice particles/space junk.

It's obviously space dust or space swamp gas. It looks like when the sun shines through the window of a dusty room. With UFOs TPTB prefer the baffle them with bullpoop strategery. Scary aliens - buy our new alien gun 3000. UFOs = Willie Horton.

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I don't know what you're trying to prove with all this?
Don't hate on skeptics because they have a different idea to you, getting upset and defensive won't get you anywhere.

Trying to prove something that might very well be unprovable is going to frustrate you to no ends.

Take a chill pill and don't take it all so seriously.
Sounds like you're having a bit of a rough time, why not step away from ATS a bit and do something else, take your mind off things.

Most definitely debris from the release. No sign of intelligence, just like the OP. I think what fools some people to believe these are UFOs is that they have no idea what zero gravity is. They think of how snow and ice crystals behave in free-fall while looking out their Mom's basement window, and think it has to behave the same way in orbit around the Earth. It doesn't.

very nice!

thanks for post

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this video has already been posted here. i don't want to search around for it, but i saw it about a month ago right here on ATS.

Yep lots of ufo's, seen strobes formations ect , i took my digcam outside and snaped a few pics of something big in the sky"daytime pics" and the object in my pic looks like a ufo and ive also seen lots of objects with my big telescope so i know they are out there for sure.

Originally posted by Enigma Publius
reply to post by weneedtoknow

 

this video has already been posted here. i don't want to search around for it, but i saw it about a month ago right here on ATS.

You are right, it was posted here:
Nasa Ufo Banned Video - Crazy !

Click here for more information.

Originally posted by weneedtoknow
quote removed due to MOD intervention to original post

I quote you just in case you would edit it.


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reply to post by weneedtoknow

I'm no skeptic,I've had 3 ufo experiences myself,but this,to me,looks like particles. Everything moves with the motion of the shuttle,and that's a telling sign IMO.

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Yes, apart of that (we have had so many discussions here about this type of stuff): i would like to know how comes that someone claims that this is a "banned" video if he/she's UNABLE to say what mission is the video related to. Funny enough, huh? "It's BANNED but I DON'T KNOW what mission this video comes from."

Originally posted by internos
reply to post by Acidtastic

 

Yes, apart of that (we have had so many discussions here about this type of stuff): i would like to know how comes that someone claims that this is a "banned" video if he/she's UNABLE to say what mission is the video related to. Funny enough, huh? "It's BANNED but I DON'T KNOW what mission this video comes from."

also,it's banned,yet it turns up on youtube. THE place to get all your contraban videos.

I know UFO's are real, and yes, I know that many are "piloted" by beings many would call "alien". But in my opinion this video doesn't show anything other than debris like ice crystals floating away after separation. You can see one float in front of the satelite as it launches.

So this is actually proof for skeptics since you say the debris are "observing", and not a very strong argument for the existence of true unexplained objects flying in space.

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I'm far from being a none believer, as if we didn't have enough problems in the first place without this crap excuse for a comment, you know it really isn't that hard to find footage that has not been covered on ATS, but my guess is you have already done the damage to yourself.

People on ATS are like elephants, big , huge , grey, with massive ears

What I mean to say is, a lot of folk have long memories, and with nonsense comments like that one, your more than likely going to make your threads unreadable, so if you did find something significant, I doubt anyone will take much notice.

Tuck your head in.



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And it's a very intelligent advice, in my opinion.
Anyway, one of the "kings" of this type of sightings is the The STS-48 UFOs incident: now that at leas showed something changing flight-path, something very hard to explain.
Description of Events

On September 15, 1991, between 20:30 and 20:45 Greenwich Mean Time, the TV camera located at the back of Space Shuttle Discovery's cargo bay was trained on the Earth's horizon while the astronauts were occupied with other tasks. A glowing object suddenly appeared just below the horizon and "slowly" moved from right to left and slightly upward in the picture. Several other glowing objects had been visible before this, and had been moving in various directions. Then a flash of light occurred at what seemed to be the lower left of the screen; and the main object,
along with the others, changed direction and accelerated away sharply, as if in response to the flash. Shortly thereafter a streak of light moved through the region vacated by the main object, and then another streak moved through the right of the screen, where two of the other objects had been. Roughly 65 seconds after the main flash, the TV camera rotated down, showing a fuzzy picture of the side of the cargo bay. It then refocused, turned toward the front of the cargo bay, and stopped broadcasting.

/3p8mac

NASA STS-48 U.F.O


Subsequently, analysis of the video shows that:

• The distance from the Discovery to the Earth's horizon is 2,757 kilometres
  
  
• The UFO's speed before accelerating into space is 87,000 kph (Mach 73)
  
  
• Three seconds after the light flash, the UFO changes direction sharply and accelarates off into space at 340,000 kph (Mach 285) within 2.2 seconds
  
  
• Such an acceleration would produce 14,000 g of force (1g is normal Earth gravity)
  

Links:

Space Shuttle Discovery Mission STS-48 - TinWiki entry

A New Look at the Evidence Supporting a Prosaic Explanation of the STS-48 "UFO" Video

Chronology of Anomalous Events during STS-48 Shuttle Mission

Commentary on the STS-48 Video: A Closer Look, and Second Thoughts

Digital Video Analysis of Anomalous Space Objects - The STS-48 Video (PDF)

Examination of Object Trajectories in the STS-48 "UFO" Video

Losing the Signal - Proof That Time Stamps on the STS-48 Video Released by NASA Are Phony

Proof of the Prosaic Nature of the STS-48 Zig-Zag Video (Skeptical)

Response to NASA's James Oberg's Analysis of STS-48 Video

Star Wars Over Australia?


On ATS:
NASA STS-48 UFO Video

NASA Space Shuttle - STS footage & Strange Objects

USA shots laser at UFO video

Aurora video?

Firing at UFO's

STS-48 Mission on video.

UFO?s Prominent in Space

Looking for Some Footage

UFO Articles on AboveTopSecret.com

Space Shuttle Discovery Mission STS-48 Captures Potential UFOs on Film




Now, THAT was an incident worthy to be discussed.
We had here Credulity Kills: he worked for NASA for 9 years as a mission control specialist for the ISS (his specialty was the ISS guidance, navigation & control system): he did provide his explanations, someone accepted the explanations, someone else did not, but at least the video was worthy to be discussed.

Yes I agree, that footage really is something extraordinay. That UFO shot off at 211,000 mph.

Originally posted by weneedtoknow


give it up skeptics
games over
its not cool anymore to deny what is painfully obvious!

You mean other than the painfully obviously space particles? I can't see how what we see in the background is any different than the obvious space particle you see float in front of the shuttle at approx 1:05 in the video.

As a side note, if you're so comfortable in your beliefs I don't understand why it is so important for 'believers' to convince 'skeptics' they are wrong in such a "nah nah I told you so" kind of way. It's desperation born out of a deep seated lack of conviction in your own beliefs that you need to have validated so bad.

I'll be the first one jumping up in the air screaming "we're not alone!" when the proof is finally there. It seems to be a common misconception that most 'believers' think skeptics are trying to rain on their parade for kicks. It just takes a bit more than some particles floating around to confirm that we're being visited by ET I'm afraid.

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