Thanks for the reply gentalmen! And everyone here is being very open minded and intelligent about this topic.
However there are so many road blocks that I run into on a daily basis, when I talk about this stuff with my friends and family.
They tell me I am crazy. They tell me I need to be locked up and away from society. They get angry at me when I speak of this in public and they get
red in the face becasue they do not fathom what I am trying to say to them.
Its almost as if I am telling them I have a Fire breathing dragon in my Garage! I take this from Carl Sagan..
The Dragon In My Garage
"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"
Suppose (I'm following a group therapy approach by the psychologist Richard Franklin) I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want
to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!
"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon.
"Where's the dragon?" you ask.
"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."
You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints.
"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floates in the air."
Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.
"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."
You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.
"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick."
And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work.
Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to
disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to
invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically
worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the
absence of evidence, on my say-so.
The only thing you've really learned from my insistence that there's a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head.
You'd wonder, if no physical tests apply, what convinced me. The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind.
But then, why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help. At the least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility.
Imagine that, despite none of the tests being successful, you wish to be scrupulously open-minded. So you don't outright reject the notion that
there's a fire-breathing dragon in my garage. You merely put it on hold. Present evidence is strongly against it, but if a new body of data emerge
you're prepared to examine it and see if it convinces you. Surely it's unfair of me to be offended at not being believed; or to criticize you for
being stodgy and unimaginative-- merely because you rendered the Scottish verdict of "not proved."
Imagine that things had gone otherwise. The dragon is invisible, all right, but footprints are being made in the flour as you watch. Your infrared
detector reads off-scale. The spray paint reveals a jagged crest bobbing in the air before you. No matter how skeptical you might have been about the
existence of dragons--to say nothing about invisible ones--you must now acknowledge that there's something here, and that in a preliminary way it's
consistent with an invisible, fire-breathing dragon.
Now another scenario: Suppose it's not just me. Suppose that several people of your acquaintance, including people who you're pretty sure don't
know each other, all tell you that they have dragons in their garages--but in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive. All of us admit we're
disturbed at being gripped by so odd a conviction so ill-supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We speculate about what it would
mean if invisible dragons were really hiding out in garages all over the world, with us humans just catching on. I'd rather it not be true, I tell
you. But maybe all those ancient European and Chinese myths about dragons weren't myths at all.
Gratifyingly, some dragon-size footprints in the flour are now reported. But they're never made when a skeptic is looking. An alternative explanation
presents itself. On close examination it seems clear that the footprints could have been faked. Another dragon enthusiast shows up with a burnt finger
and attributes it to a rare physical manifestation of the dragon's fiery breath. But again, other possibilities exist. We understand that there are
other ways to burn fingers besides the breath of invisible dragons. Such "evidence"--no matter how important the dragon advocates consider it--is
far from compelling. Once again, the only sensible approach is tentatively to reject the dragon hypothesis, to be open to future physical data, and to
wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people share the same strange delusion.
Am I really insanely crazy for thinking we are vibrations? Am I simply a nut job that needs to be locked away from society, never to speak of my
knowledge ever again?
Even when I can in essence prove to people that vibrations are a key factor in this universe they still cant see it! Yet I can see the tell tale
signs that something is there, but we can not see it with our eyes.
This goes beyond just this thread, and goes into many other things I know and talk about. Yet everything I say something to anyone, I am told to shut
up, and that I am totally crazy. And that I need to not go around this world and talk like this.
I cant help it.. Its who I am as a person! I have a passion for such things.
Im told over and over again I CAN DO NOTHING to change the world, or open peoples minds.. I ask why.. They say becasue thats how it is.
I tell them no, its what you are told to belive, and thats why you feel that way.. Yet again, they say I am crazy, and shut me down.
So I come into my cave and come online and seek others out who think like me..
Are we really this crazy? When the human eye can not see something, does that mean it is not there?
Sure there is not a dragon, but its a metaphore to how things work from my point of veiw.. And why so many people are trapped and contained within
these thought patterns of YOU can do nothing.
I happen to belive in myself enough to know I can do something, and I can do more than just something.. I am truely and honestly passionate about
what I know, and try to share my knowledge with others.
Yet when I do, Im made to look the fool.
Am I a fool to think that there is more beyond what we can see with our eyes. and feel with our fingers?
Why are people so dugg deep into this progression of Denial of almost everything in the world?
Is it because there are to many hoaxes out there?
Is it becasue there are to many fantasy land religions that only wish to get your money, and crooked governments that have your back?
Its odd.. This is the only place in the world I can come to which I find other like minds who agree.. Once I step out into the real world.
Im just a nutter, crazed nutjob who is talking out of his mind..
Edit-- Just wanted to add, its not only this topic I run into this kind of replies from in the everyday world.. But topics like 9-11, Topics like the
New World Order, Religion and the Right wing fundies. UFO and Life outside of just Earth.. Sometimes I feel so damn alone.
As my passion has made me look like a crazed member of my family and friends.. They even tell me not to mention anything at the dinner table.
Im told over and over again.. and its starting to make me feel as if Ignorance is attacking me at all sides..
Is this just me? Or do some of you feel like this too in life?
Yes Science is fun and I love it! Yet at every turn Im told my facts and my thoughts are just looney tunes.. And that I am wasting my life and my
intelligence with such topics..
My sister tonight told me I am wasting my life on the computer, and that I need to go back to school and get a degree, put back on the suit and tie
and comform... NOOOOO! I cant do it anymore..
I can no longer play the pretending game with anyone anymore!
I stand before you naked as the day I was born.. I am me, and I am finally free!! But it comes at a cost.
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