Thats an interesting idea , will try it out today thank You. But I do have a small issue with that .
The moment you start to "focus" on anything means you already woke up from a deep sleep . You might still feel "weird and semi asleep" but thats
not a deep sleep anymore.
So how do You manage to focus on anything while waking up from deep sleep ? (Not considering lucid dreaming here as this is a whole different story)
Here's a very interesting consciousness experiment for you to try out..., page 1
reply posted on 20-10-2008 @ 11:01 AM by Thill
reply to post by TheRealDonPedros
Exactly my thoughts. The other way around (from awake to sleep) I can see how it can be done , but from sleep to awake without a lucid dream i kind of have no idea how to approach that , because until you get your first conscious thoughts you are sleeping and then after the first conscious thoughts you are already awake (well there can still be the thin veil of the dream around You but you are not in a deep sleep anymore).
Anyhow , I'll try it out for a few nights and see if I can get the hang of it .
To the OP : Did You try the same thing in the opposite direction (awake-sleep) ?
Exactly my thoughts. The other way around (from awake to sleep) I can see how it can be done , but from sleep to awake without a lucid dream i kind of have no idea how to approach that , because until you get your first conscious thoughts you are sleeping and then after the first conscious thoughts you are already awake (well there can still be the thin veil of the dream around You but you are not in a deep sleep anymore).
Anyhow , I'll try it out for a few nights and see if I can get the hang of it .
To the OP : Did You try the same thing in the opposite direction (awake-sleep) ?
reply posted on 20-10-2008 @ 02:49 PM by CavemanDD
reply to post by NeuronDivide
Good experiment, I kind of off an on have been working with this. I will tell you my experiences, I know the monks practise something similar.
When going to bed, I'll try and hold on to my conciousness, usually when I fall to sleep I don't notice it, but I will wake up, with a feeling of "what the hell was that"... whatever happened, I did not expect it, and I guess a bit of fear from inexperience took over, and caused me to wake up with my heart beating.
Other times I successfully followed the transition..a bit anyway... you could say there was like 15 minutes of missing time, but I started dreaming right aware, or rather.. was aware that I was dreaming, I think i was lucid all night... i remember learning SO much and being upset that I would forget it all as the night went on.. (I was aware of my dreamstate all night.)
Other times when I wake up, my head will be swimming and its like dreams want to keep playing out.. if I'm tired enough, what I will do is close my eyes, and try and let the concepts come in my mind, the "random thoughts".. I hold on to these and at one point there is a bit of confusion, you could call it that... but these ideas in your mind transition and become more and more real until you realise your standing in them, and you know your not awake anymore.. another way to lucid dream..
If i wake up in this state... i'll try and go back to sleep and tell myself "i want sleep paralysis"... and sometimes I get it, this is how I astral project.
I've waken up before, keeping my eyes half open and am still watching a dream play out but I know i'm awake too..
One time I tried a technique where I focussed on my heart and pulse when I went to sleep.. it was an astral projection technique... i woke up with sleep paralysis and I felt a big spinning sphere in my chest, the width of my torso, spinning so fast, it was too much for me to handle, I didn't know what to do with this, I think my solution was to just go back to sleep.
I'm trying to develope this transition phase you speak of and kind of get to that point of full time conscious awareness if I choose to... or at least witness the transition, I have no doubt that it is something incredible like I've been told.
Good experiment, I kind of off an on have been working with this. I will tell you my experiences, I know the monks practise something similar.
When going to bed, I'll try and hold on to my conciousness, usually when I fall to sleep I don't notice it, but I will wake up, with a feeling of "what the hell was that"... whatever happened, I did not expect it, and I guess a bit of fear from inexperience took over, and caused me to wake up with my heart beating.
Other times I successfully followed the transition..a bit anyway... you could say there was like 15 minutes of missing time, but I started dreaming right aware, or rather.. was aware that I was dreaming, I think i was lucid all night... i remember learning SO much and being upset that I would forget it all as the night went on.. (I was aware of my dreamstate all night.)
Other times when I wake up, my head will be swimming and its like dreams want to keep playing out.. if I'm tired enough, what I will do is close my eyes, and try and let the concepts come in my mind, the "random thoughts".. I hold on to these and at one point there is a bit of confusion, you could call it that... but these ideas in your mind transition and become more and more real until you realise your standing in them, and you know your not awake anymore.. another way to lucid dream..
If i wake up in this state... i'll try and go back to sleep and tell myself "i want sleep paralysis"... and sometimes I get it, this is how I astral project.
I've waken up before, keeping my eyes half open and am still watching a dream play out but I know i'm awake too..
One time I tried a technique where I focussed on my heart and pulse when I went to sleep.. it was an astral projection technique... i woke up with sleep paralysis and I felt a big spinning sphere in my chest, the width of my torso, spinning so fast, it was too much for me to handle, I didn't know what to do with this, I think my solution was to just go back to sleep.
I'm trying to develope this transition phase you speak of and kind of get to that point of full time conscious awareness if I choose to... or at least witness the transition, I have no doubt that it is something incredible like I've been told.
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