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Help me out, did anybody actually warn of this financial crisis?

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posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:26 PM
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(Mods, please move if it isn't in the right place...)

Now that the "crash" is beginning, there's a lot of people comign out to say "I told you so!"

But does anybody here on ATS know of any person who actually did warn, 3 or 4 or more years ago, that this market crash was going to happen?

I want to know whether the "warnings" were actually true predictions... or if they were made after the slide was happening, and it was easy to see what was coming.

I want to know specifically because the presidential candidates seem fond of saying they warned of it before it happened.. but I don't know if there is any truth to that.

Edit: I'm thinking more along the lines of politicians who tried to act as whistleblowers but were ignored, as is the claim, than of financial analysts.

[edit on 12-10-2008 by asmeone2]




posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:30 PM
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Ron Paul ya goof. and a one mr Rienhardt specifically has been giving us warnings of very specific days He warned folks to sell or cash out before oct 7th and if you did you still have all you 401k money.. Most recently I would say a false flag causeing an internet shut down temporarly...just long enough for TV to tell us the markets are stablizing weather they do or don't.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:31 PM
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hi my first post incidently though i have been here a while

yes someone did make a prediction about this and he was on whitley striebers dreamland show talking about it a while back in great detail on unknowncountry.com but i really cannot remember the guys name sorry but you could maybe go check it out. I believe he has the guy on about once a year to check his last predictions as he is apparently very accurate.I was telling a friend at work about this man because my friend was taking an interest in the stock market and i told him that some guy had predicted a crash within the next year or so, i guess that was about a year ago now. still its a start for your research. good luck.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:34 PM
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I know dozens of people at ATS whose tried to warn people about this, including myself. I also tried to warn my friends more then two years ago and they called me conspirator nut. Now, I'm the one who is able to smile, because I was right and I'm the only one who didn't lost anything in this crisis, because I was prepared. And I believe many fellow ATS members did the same and prepared. So we, conspirators are just sit back and watching the show. And honestly, I'm enjoying it.

Ron Paul, David Duke and many others are also tried to warn people about this. But they were called as Nazis, conspirators, liars... so, what I can add to the end... We told you.

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posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:38 PM
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Thanks to those who have answered already... Ron paul of course I knew.

I've been hearing both parties claim they predicted this some 5-6 years ago... just trying to see if there is any truth to that (doubt it!)

I remember hearing about the gold, and recently there's been Gerald Celante on C2C but I'm wondering does anyone know of a prediction made, especially by a party-toting politician, who forsaw this before it got started, even before the housing crash?

[edit on 12-10-2008 by asmeone2]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:40 PM
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just read through Project Camelot's page for many whistleblowers that have mentioned a financial crisis coming...

www.projectcamelot.org...

for example, this was reported there on August 11, 2008:


In response to a list of questions we posed about the escalating situation in Georgia, our 7 July source immediately replied with these important insights:

The Rothschilds want America brought to its knees so that the North American Union, a pre-step to world governance, can proceed. This means anything that will contribute to that cause. The Rothschilds want to rule the world through their multiple corporate giants they own and manage worldwide, PERIOD. They care not about money when one owns everything.

People who talk about the money-grabbing powers do not understand what is going on. Control and Power is the game.

Now, this means America must be split apart in every possible way, through war, economy, stock markets, civil unrest, and the ideas of freedom given a new meaning: "Managed Freedom" - the beehive effect, and disguised socialism managed by dictatorial methods.

...

Not been a priority for me to discover. More worried right now about the next 90 days here, making preparation, etc... as things are about to get steadily worse, with a probable October crash economically and otherwise... perhaps some eventual civil conflicts when the system begins to come apart even more than today. Gold and silver are important.

We will begin to see more chaos after October, some going to the streets in heavy minority areas around the country... LA, Chicago, NY, etc.

As I understand it, early October is dedicated to be the major shock month. Things are about to change even more drastically.

Personally, I will be surprised from what I have heard that there will even be an election. Let's hope this is not the case, but right now I am not counting on there being one. The Crash (with major worldwide ramifications) will create such chaos that a "National Emergency" may be declared, suspending elections, and while they may not call it martial law, it will be a more aggressive form of a police state enforcement with foreign military brought in to do whatever it takes to establish control of the major populated areas of the country.



their July 7th source:
www.projectcamelot.org...



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:42 PM
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Didn't Ross Perot predict something like this happening back in 92/93? Of course he was accused as trying to spread the politics of fear by the media and his opponents.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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Glenn Beck
Gerald Celente
Peter Schiff

all at least 18 months ago.......



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by icecap
Didn't Ross Perot predict something like this happening back in 92/93? Of course he was accused as trying to spread the politics of fear by the media and his opponents.


I think so now that you mention it.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 01:52 PM
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Try Leap 2020. They even have a time line. They are pretty good, and have predicted the events we have lived through with a 97 % sucess rate during the last decade.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 02:13 PM
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ive been warning for years as i have had an interest in economics for several years.

it was blatantly obvious what was coming ,i dont understand how others didnt.
even uneducated friends of mine,would say,"everythings and body is in debt,the money supply has to run out at some point right?"

those who looked into it could see,those who ignored the pro market propaganda could see-all the talk of being in a "strong bull market"(neuro linguistic programming),it was all bubble blabber,as if some one was trying to create a nice big bubble that would cause an almighty burst and destabilise the world.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 02:56 PM
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I'm not sure if this letter has been validated, but if in fact it is valid, it would appear the house Republlicans did in a letter to Bill Frist, dated May 6th, 2006. Here's a copy:



Here's more interesting reading:
S. 190 - “Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005”
Found here:
getsgreased.blogspot.com... prise.html



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:21 PM
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I know of someone who threatened it,



Speech given by Mo Strong




What if a small group of these word leaders were to conclude that the
principle risk to the earth comes from the actions of the rich countries?
And if the world is to survive, those rich countries would have to sign an
agreement reducing their impact on the environment. Will they do it? Will
the rich countries agree to reduce their impact on the environment? Will
they agree to save the earth?
The group's conclusion is 'no.' The rich countries won't do it. They won't
change. So, in order to save the planet, the group decides: isn't the only
hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it
our responsibility to bring that about?
This group of world leaders form a secret society to bring about a world
collapse. It's February. They're all at Davos. These aren't terrorists -
they're world leaders. They have positioned themselves in the world's
commodity and stock markets. They've engineered, using their access to stock
exchanges, and computers, and gold supplies, a panic. Then they prevent the
markets from closing. They jam the gears. They have mercenaries who hold the
rest of the world leaders at Davros as hostage. The markets can't close. The
rich countries...?" and Strong makes a slight motion with his fingers as if
he were flicking a cigarette butt out of the window.
I sat there spellbound. This is not any story-teller talking. This is
Maurice Strong. He knows these world leaders. He is, in fact, co-chairman of
the Council of the World Economic Forum. He sits at the fulcrum of power. He
is in a position to do it
What if a small group of these word leaders were to conclude that the


rigorousintuition.blogspot.com...

canadiancoalition.com...




In 1978, a mystic informed Hanne and Maurice Strong that "the Baca would become the center for a new planetary order which would evolve from the economic collapse and environmental catastrophes that would sweep the globe in the years to come." The Strongs say they see the Baca, which they call 'The Valley Of the Refuge Of World Truths '",as the paradigm for the entire planet and say that the fate of the earth is at stake.

www.mail-archive.com...@listserv.aol.com/msg07064.html

[edit on 033131p://bSunday2008 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:28 PM
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Here's a letter written 2 1/2 years ago and signed by 20 senators. The first four signers are Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska), John Sununu (R-New Hampshire), John McCain (R-Arizona) and Elizabeth Dole (R-North Carolina).




I don't know who that 5th signature belongs to, but the other 15 signers are:

Jeff Sessions (R-Alabama)
Wayne Allard (R-Colorado)
Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
Jim Bunning (R-Kentucky)
Jon Kyle (R-Arizona)
Rick Santorum (R-Pennsylvania)
Mel Martinez (R-Florida)
Judd Gregg (R-New Hampshire)
John Thune (R-South Dakota)
Richard Burr (R-North Carolina)
John Ensign (R-Nevada)
Larry Craig (R-Idaho)
Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina)
James Inhofe (R-Oklahoma)
Tom Coburn (R-Oklahoma)



Edit to add: Dagnabbit, TheRooster beat me to it.



[edit on 12-10-2008 by Tuning Spork]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:33 PM
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TS, Great minds think alike. Wanna watch something interesting?

www.youtube.... com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&eurl=http://getsgreased.blogspot.com/2008/09/s-190-federal-housing-enterprise.html

My favorite parts... :41 Rep Maxine Waters (D) CA and
1:03 Rep Gregory Meeks (D) New York.


[edit on 10/12/2008 by TheRooster]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:44 PM
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This was predicted almost to the day.

March 13, 2008 There was a secret meeting in congress. A complete behind closed doors deal.

The day after it was leaked via an Australian newspaper that Congress was told there would be a complete collapse of the dollar by Sept 30.

Although the dollar didn't collapse, the financial institutions did.

Most everyone on ATS pretty much knew that the ---- would hit the fan.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:50 PM
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THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION!

You know, everyone will step up and claim credit for this and that, with proof.

I can only tell you, books on the coming economic collapse were published back in the 1970's. How far do we want to go back in time?

Were there ample warnings, yes there were. You just have to research them yourself.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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So, you see, your OP was ignorant, as as a group of people dedicated to denying you any attention. We will all hereby ignore you and let this thread die, because THOUSANDS of people were warning about this, literally.

Bye.



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 04:07 PM
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Strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis

www.discoverthenetworks.org...

the “Cloward-Piven Strategy”




Both the Living Wage and Voting Rights movements depend heavily on financial support from George Soros's Open Society Institute and his "Shadow Party," through whose support the Cloward-Piven strategy continues to provide a blueprint for some of the Left's most ambitious campaigns.


[edit on 043131p://bSunday2008 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 04:13 PM
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There was someone who, imo, warned well in advance of what was about to happen, and it seems to be unfolding as we speak. That person was Daniel Abrahamson in a youtube vid called "Rebuilding Americas Senses". As far as I can see that clip has, regretably, been taken offline (censored).

If there's one lecture, out of the thousands of truth and conspiracy video's I have watched so far, that stuck in my mind, it was this one. He was verry clear about the times ahead. It was more of a serious warning then a prediction. I took, and still take, his warning verry serious.

I do hope someone can find the entire lecture for others to see. Maybe it is only me who sees it this way.



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