Achtung! Achtung! U.S. Gov't - We demand the New Deal II or face dissolution

The current system is irretrivably broken.

The richest people on the planet have created a system of inequity whereby they maintain power and control over you and your children. In an equitable and rational system of trade, wealth is proportonally divided according to your works and talents.

Our current system is completely unfixable and must be torn down brick by brick. You yourself are as much to blame as the slavemasters, as you have given others the power to control you and your families lives. The greedy and arrogant have no interest in anything other than thier own greed and survival.

They will lie, cheat and steal from you. They will take advantage of you and conspire to do bad things to you and your family. They have no vision forward and do not stand together as one.

The federal reserve system and it's backers are attempting to save themselves and it is likely that they will NOT succeed.

At this point there is only one thing that can save America, prevent the dissolution of the current government and the implementation of the North American Union.

We demand that they implement the New Deal II:

1) The hundreds of useless and conflicting existing government agencies and programs must be abolished and consolidated.
2) A simple flat tax must be implemented for everyone
3) A single payer heath insurance and disability program must be enacted
4) The U.S. Congress must enact election finance reform and get all corporate money out of D.C.
5) A nationawide renewable energy infrastructure plan must be enacted
6) A massive jobs program, on the scale of the great depression era jobs programs, must be implented.

Do these things and the free market will thrive. Do none of these things or do only a few half as@ and you will fall.

[edit on 9-10-2008 by In nothing we trust]

Hmm I think it will take people actually starving and perhaps lighting themselves on fire (or other un-ignorable, un-spinnable expressions of idealism), and perhaps a few bullets actually nicking federal buildings, before that is actually taken seriously by the corporate media, and enters the arena of public consideration.

The question is, does the current road lead there? And if not, do we want it to?

Edit to add: You do realize they're quite content to fall? They've done it before.


[edit on 9-10-2008 by Ian McLean]

Originally posted by Ian McLean
Edit to add: You do realize they're quite content to fall? They've done it before.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

2) A simple flat tax must be implemented for everyone


[edit on 9-10-2008 by In nothing we trust]

I have to say I agree with everything you say except this one little point. As it stands in our country now, the wealthy pay a disproportionately large part of the overall tax base. We need to collect more taxes now thanks to the bailouts and the financial crisis. To switch to a flat tax proposal would be to redistribute the tax base, increasing taxes for all but the extremely wealthy (over 250k a year). A sudden and dramatic tax increase like that for such a large portion of the population would likely be a "curb-stomp" for the shattered economy, and people might riot.

Originally posted by drwizardphd

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

2) A simple flat tax must be implemented for everyone

I have to say I agree with everything you say except this one little point.

Would you settle for a simplification of the tax code?

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Here's an idea, audit: Bush Jr. and Sr, Cheney and Rumsfeld... should have more then enough money siphoned into their businesses and off shore accounts to cover the deficit and restore the economy.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Yes exactly, except in this example the you is they, unless you have far to much money to be amusing yourself by posting on ATS.

Ride and control the avenues of investment when they're favorable, create a bubble, and move (behind the scenes) to a position of providing worthless future promises, to fulfill at future discounted cost, as the bubble bursts. A formula as old as time.

As to a previous poster: "people might riot", I personally think that is the most interesting thing to examine in this whole 'broad picture'. Watching how the management of blame and expectation is handled, in tension with cold hard numbers. An insight into human psychology. The current market 'adjustment', imo, has been cast as quite 'unavoidable', and the measures being put in place are merely to make it a staged, controllable action.

Thus, the interesting piece-by-piece slide, with various and shifting agencies of blame, and different relative flows of capital within the larger market system, leading to a pre-determined 'readjustment'. The avoidance of forward-feedback loops, caused by growing public consensus, is quite a challenge to manage. Very interesting in its implementation.

A simplification might be in order

Most of your ideas are valid and it's surprising our leaders aren't considering some of these options. Obama likes to talk about Corporate money reform and renewable energy, but who knows how much he actually plans to do? McCain wants to freeze all spending except defense, and veterans, who he voted against earlier. No more healthcare, education or social programs. That's a great plan.

Didn't these people pay attention in history class?

Originally posted by drwizardphd
Obama likes to talk about Corporate money reform and renewable energy, but who knows how much he actually plans to do?

McCain wants to freeze all spending except defense, and veterans, who he voted against earlier. No more healthcare, education or social programs. That's a great plan.

Didn't these people pay attention in history class?

Neither of these guys will do anything except make the problem worse.

The stock market fell in 1929 and the economic decline continued until 1933. After 4 years of suffering the American people finally elected a leader who was able to unite the country.

You can replace 1929 with 2008 and 1933 with 2012.

The great depression II has officially begun.

[edit on 10-10-2008 by In nothing we trust]