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Hal Turner Obtained An Actual "Amero" From The Shipment Sent To China

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posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 06:15 PM
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just wandered if you seen this clip then ...
www.dailymotion.com...

im british and we have our own stuff going on with euro and the pound it wont stop us losing the pound only when it will benefit us ,it will happen,then 25 years down the line and who knows we might be all using the same printed notes.




posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 06:23 PM
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i think it has more to do with gold content,its not the coin its the gold , making the money markets play the more people trading goods the more money goes into circlulation it drives up the currency just a theory of course



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 06:25 PM
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Hal Turner has already been

DEBUNKED.



-Ign0RanT

[edit on 9-11-2008 by Ign0rant]



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by g210b

That "AMEROS" coin looks selfmade to me:
It lacks in details and consists of unclean material.

Also coins with values of 20 and 100 Ameros looks somewhat strange.
Higher values are usually printed on paper.







but if they are worth more ...



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 06:31 PM
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You're right Fathom. It is nothing but a crummy scam being perpetuated by a whack job with a hate on for the NWO and SPPI . He needs to get out of his mom's basement for a while and stay off the computer.

Nothing new on this one. Besides, Obama is a protectionist through and through. The idea that he would support anything other than the dollar is ludicrous.


[edit on 9-11-2008 by Cynic]



posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 09:39 PM
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this has a funny sounding name amero trading slr

mintportal.bvdep.com...

a review by a Forex expert www.tradingacademy.com...

and the slow collaspse of the dollar

www.worldnetdaily.com... this is old but sounds of now

this is congress about changing FISA policies secret meeting march 2008

uk.youtube.com...


this is part of section 8 "

To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;

To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;

To establish post offices and post roads;"

from here en.wikipedia.org...:_Powers_of_Congress




posted on Nov, 9 2008 @ 09:43 PM
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I've been warning the sheep about these Ameros for three or four years. All I get in return are blank stares or snickers. We'll see who all is still laughing when this thing goes down. Is there anybody out there so blind they can't see the way this is going?



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 02:07 AM
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Why do some of you keep ignoring that he's been debunked? The site that makes them has been around and making that coin before he even said anything about it.

You can clearly see when he looks at the coin to make sure his finger hides the site's logo completely. He showed the front completely, but was sure to hide the logo on the back


It made me sick to my stomach when I read his blog. Only thing I ever heard of him before was the Amero coin video. Then I just saw his blog and the amount of racism on there is very sickening. He even calls out skinheads to kill people on there. That's disturbing.



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 06:07 AM
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its not hal turner im disputing its the amero

this is the council of foreign relataions in america .one of there jobs is to drive this through and make it happen the have all key personel to make this work

en.wikipedia.org...-41

www.cfr.org...

John P. Manley profile
www.nortel.com...

Pedro Aspe profile
www.carnegie.org... Aspe

William F. Weld
"he was credited with improving the business climate"
www.mwe.com...
.............................................
"Canada

One argument is that it would save up to $3 billion in currency transactions.[9] The same authors also stated that Canada's GDP could rise by up to 33 percent in a 20-year period given the adoption of a single currency.

The idea of a common currency has historically been unpopular in English speaking Canada, in comparison to the province of Quebec where it has received more support. A 2001 opinion poll found that in Quebec over 50 percent of respondents favored the idea of a shared currency, while in the rest of Canada a majority of respondents opposed the idea. [10]

[edit] Mexico

The possibility of a monetary merger has also been discussed in Mexico as a natural step to take after NAFTA.[11] Former Mexican president Vicente Fox echoed that view and expressed his hope for a greater integration of Canada, Mexico and the United States, including an eventual monetary union, whilst on a 2007 promotional tour for his book "Revolution of Hope."[12][13]

[edit] Support in other regions

Lower levels of currency cooperation have been practiced in the Americas before. Some nations such as Argentina, Brazil and Canada have at times tied their currency to the U.S. dollar. Some of them, such as Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados and The Netherlands Antilles (guilder) still do.

The U.S. dollar is officially accepted alongside local currencies in El Salvador (since 2001), Nicaragua, Peru, Honduras, and Panama, although in practice two of these countries (El Salvador and Panama) are fully dollarized. In 2000, Ecuador officially adopted the U.S. dollar as its sole currency.

Unofficially, the U.S. dollar is treated as a de facto secondary currency in much of Central America and the Caribbean.

Currency integration is also one of the many long-term aims of Unasur (Union of South American Nations), a supranational organization comprising all the sovereign nations of South America, modeled after the European Union.



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 09:37 AM
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all these companys have a connection with obama for building the new roads and pipes for the intergration of your neighbours

Ameron International Corporation it has nothing directly to do with amero except the executives who are on the board who want it .

-The Parsons Corporation

my.barackobama.com...

investing.businessweek.com...



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 10:11 AM
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THE AMERO vs. THE DOLLAR
Jason Kirby
There has been some discussion in the media lately about a North American Union to replace the USA.

www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

Or you can google "North American Union."

Associated with such an alleged agenda is the plan to replace the Dollar with the 'Amero.'

www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15017

Google "The Amero."

Predictably, certain individuals are alarmed by the prospect of replacing the Dollar with another currency called the Amero.

www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27266405.shtml

As a line in the above National Ledger article reads, "Our currency will be replaced with the "Amero." And, we'll be one giant step closer to the U.N.'s perverse dream of a one-world government."

Whether or not there is any truth that some individuals or groups would like to economically or politically unify Canada, Mexico, and the United States, the peripheral alarm regarding the replacement of the Dollar with a currency named the "Amero" is worth exploring.

The first thing that jumps out at me is the expression, "Our currency...." That is an interesting choice of words. This phrase implies that the currency of the Federal Reserve System is ours, yet, somehow the Amero currency of the North American Union would not be ours and therefore be objectionable.

The second thing that jumps out at me is the expression, "...will be replaced...;" My choice of words would have been, "has been replaced."

Let's hypothesize that Federal Reserve System currency is already not ours.

Let's hypothesize that our currency has long since been replaced.

Here is how it was done.

THIS WAS OUR CURRENCY. Figure 1 is a picture of what certainly used to be our currency, our current coin, before it was switched with Federal Reserve debt. Below is ONE DOLLAR of silver.

Figure 1.

The coin pictured above is exactly what the U.S. Constitution mandates we citizens of the United States of America use as money. The laws, and the code, of the United States of America at that time sustained the circulation and use of this piece and others like it as money. Does anyone bother to respect the Constitution anymore? Our money was not debt. It was wealth. It was born of nature and worked by the National mint into what it is. It was an asset which was not simultaneously someone else's liability. Debt freedom, once achieved, was much closer to absolute under such a money system. It bore no interest except when its owner consented to lend it to a borrower for a rate of return. When it was spent, it was considered at common law that a debt was paid. And it respected the tradition from time immemorial that in exchange, value would be exchanged for value; it was equitable. When it was saved, instead of spent, it preserved the wealth of the saver, who could reasonably expect prices to be within reasonable range of what they were when the coin was saved.

"As banker Vince Rossiter has pointed out, 'from 1814 to 1913, the U.S. fought four wars, enjoyed greater increases in population than any other nation in the world, suffered significant short-term inflation and deflation at intervals, and still it was possible to buy substantially the same basket of food in 1913 for approximately the same price that it cost in 1814, 100 years earlier.' " (1.)

Try and do that now, with the base year of 1974, for example. You'll find it takes multiples the money to buy the same item.

Our currency enjoyed the protection of the law and counterfeiters faced capital punishment. Coin clipping, shaving, sweating, mixing with base metals, all being ways in which kings and princes cheated the public, even our own government was prohibited from such activities.

And Figure 2 is another picture of what used to be our currency, our current coin. Below is one dollar of gold."



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 10:13 AM
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Paper money was in use and that was acceptable as long at the paper promised to pay gold or silver coin on demand. If the paper circulated, then the coin it represented was on deposit; if the coin was circulating, then the paper was not circulating. The silver and gold certificate was a token, but a lawful claim on the real coin. See Figures 3 and 4.

Figure 3.

It is not easy to see but it reads, "This Certifies That There Has Been Deposited In The Treasury Of The United States Of America Payable To The Bearer On Demand One Silver Dollar." This was our money. And so was the following. It is accurate enough to call this a "promise to pay" because it does indeed promise to pay something, dollars in coin. It was an evidence of debt only in the sense that the Treasury owed the bearer the specified coin, on demand. See Figure 3.

Figure 4.

Again, it is not easy to see but it reads, "This Certifies That There Has Been Deposited In The Treasury Of The United States Of America Payable To The Bearer On Demand Twenty Dollars In Gold Coin." This was our money. It is indeed a promise to pay. Spending a silver or gold certificate was acceptable because, although it was a money substitute, it was a reliable and dependable proxy for coin. See Figure 4.

By law, the SUBSTANCE of OUR money was gold and silver bullion, and the LAWS of money in the United States made gold and silver coin LAWFUL MONEY.

Where do you find such specimens of money today? In coin shops and personal collections.

What we had then (gold, silver coin) was replaced with what is today in your pocket and your bank account. Today, we use THEIR money. You cannot tell me that Federal Reserve Notes are our money. The Constitution does not contemplate them. The First Money Act of April 2, 1792 does not contemplate them. The code of the United States for most of our history does not contemplate them. It is not our money. It doesn't matter that it has been around since granddad was a young man. Crime has been around for a long time too. The long lived perpetration of a wrong does not lend it legitimacy. It is alien to the Constitution, and our money is effectively in exile. Their money resembles ours, more or less, if you need glasses or don't read; there are pictures of our dead Presidents on it. Many Americans simply believe it is our currency because that is the way it has been since their birth, and they don't know what they are looking at. Or they do and do not distinguish between real value and debt. We, including those of us who know better, begrudgingly use it mainly because our own government refuses to follow the Constitution on the money issue. And we must use something so we use this. Our government has long since bought into central banking with debt-based irredeemable paper. If you want to read why, look up Alan Greenspan's essay, "Gold and Economic Freedom," which gives as good an explanation as any: it is the easiest way to set up and maintain a socialist welfare state.

There is no SUBSTANCE associated with their money. It may read X Dollars on the face, but dollars of what? Above you saw a dollar of gold and a dollar of silver. Above you saw gold and silver certificates that promised on demand to pay a dollar of silver or ten dollars of gold. A Dollar was a unit of value that related precious metal to a weight measured in grains.



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 10:18 AM
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as if the other links weren't enough, here's snopes.com

www.snopes.com...

the amero is not a coin that will be put into use.

plain and simple.



posted on Nov, 10 2008 @ 10:27 AM
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ok i will shut up for now

legislation takes time and debate the legal process started 1992 for this curency and will come.



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